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Sorry it was a scandal. Someone smarter then you named it that, Mr. Eco Friendly latte sipping college guy.


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Sorry it was a scandal. Someone smarter then you named it that, Mr. Eco Friendly latte sipping college guy.
You just repeated your own position without considering the other sideís explanation. Thatís not a conversation or dialogue, thatís blindness.

Say what you want about me, but at least Iím willing to listen to and understand the other side.

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Obama did not weaponize the IRS against Republicans, thatís another faux scandal. I even remember having this conversation with you and providing all the links and you more or less conceded to some degree. Do you not remember the details of the IRS thing?


It doesn't matter if you think it was a scandal or not the IRS was wrong:

Court Rules Against the IRS

That leads up to the part of it is scandalous.

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You just repeated your own position without considering the other sideís explanation. Thatís not a conversation or dialogue, thatís blindness.

Say what you want about me, but at least Iím willing to listen to and understand the other side.


Please prove the Washington Post wrong this n in naming it a political scandal.


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Obama did not weaponize the IRS against Republicans, thatís another faux scandal. I even remember having this conversation with you and providing all the links and you more or less conceded to some degree. Do you not remember the details of the IRS thing?


Yes he did, the IRS even apologized.


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It doesn't matter if you think it was a scandal or not the IRS was wrong:

Court Rules Against the IRS

That leads up to the part of it is scandalous.
Right, but Iím disputing the claim that Obama weaponized the IRS against conservatives. The IRS screening procedures may have disproportionately affected conservative groups but they did also affect liberal groups. Essentially the IRS was applying heightened scrutiny on groups with buzzwords like ďPatriotsĒ in their name because research indicated they were more likely to evade taxes or something.

What the IRS did was wrong, I think we can agree. But looking at the details and intention, it clearly was not being used by Obama for political purposes. Didnít Obama even force the irs commissioner to resign?

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Right, but Iím disputing the claim that Obama weaponized the IRS against conservatives. The IRS screening procedures may have disproportionately affected conservative groups but they did also affect liberal groups. Essentially the IRS was applying heightened scrutiny on groups with buzzwords like ďPatriotsĒ in their name because research indicated they were more likely to evade taxes or something.

What the IRS did was wrong, I think we can agree. But looking at the details and intention, it clearly was not being used by Obama for political purposes. Didnít Obama even force the irs commissioner to resign?


Plausible deniability is a powerful tool when you are the leader of any organization. Obama did several things that were sketchy and leveraged his knowledge of the law to shield himself from harm. There were several things on that OP with scandals that were legitimate concerns pushed aside because of his popularity with public opinion.

The president is able to prioritize enforcement of laws as well as "suspend" enforcement of laws, the IRS was a heightened enforcement or scrutiny.

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Another fake news thread. Sweet baby J!


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So Fly's only argument is it wasn't a scadal, just a failure.


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Could it be said His level of FAILURE was Truly SCANDALOUS?


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Could it be said His level of FAILURE was Truly SCANDALOUS?
Yeah. Obama invested in a company that went bankrupt. Meanwhile, Trump actually went bankrupt, 5 times

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That and Obama's actions lead to U.S Citizens being Murdred both in this Country and Abroad.

Funny how that works.


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That and Obama's actions lead to U.S Citizens being Murdred both in this Country and Abroad.

Funny how that works.
#Deflection

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#Deflection


#Fascism


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Yeah. Obama invested in a company that went bankrupt. Meanwhile, Trump actually went bankrupt, 5 times


To quote a certain poster.

#Deflection.


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To quote a certain poster.

#Deflection.
When exactly did I deflect? Sure, retrospectively investing in Solyndra was a mistake.

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When exactly did I deflect? Sure, retrospectively investing in Solyndra was a mistake.


And He used TAXPAYER Money to do it to!

Unlike Trump.


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When exactly did I deflect? Sure, retrospectively investing in Solyndra was a mistake.





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Yeah. Obama invested in a company that went bankrupt. Meanwhile, Trump actually went bankrupt, 5 times


This thread isn't about the orange monkey. AKA Trump


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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This thread isn't about the orange monkey. AKA Trump
Ok, so no bringing up Marvel in a thread about DC? No bringing up Paul McCartney in a thread about John Lennon? No bringing up Simon in a thread about Garfunkel?? Get outta here, I can make whatever comparisons I want between anyone.

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Trump also got his companies OUT of Bankruptcy 5 times.

Obama did everything he could to BANKRUPT this Nation. That hasn't been fixed yet.

So SUCK ON THAT FEEFEEFLY!!! You Fascist.


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