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One Big Mob
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Originally posted by abhilegend


What exactly is your point? That the Serpent was brought from Gorr homeworld via a wormhole but when entering it led to another world? And coincidentally Thor fell to Gorr homeworld from the sun and their blood fell on it too?
Before I go to bed, I'll ask you what you want so I can do it tomorrow.

Do you want me to give one complete breakdown of the feat and if you don't see things my way, I'll be done here?

Or

Do you want me to just piss off?



Just tell me what you want babe. And I don't mean argue with me in this post, I mean do you actually want to know why I think the feat happened the way I think? I feel what I've posted speaks for itself so either option is okay with me.


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So Ranx destroyed itself when we saw green energy shockwaves go all the way to Mogo?

Proof of this moron?

Bran didn't explain shit. No planets or moons were destroyed.

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Originally posted by One Big Mob
Before I go to bed, I'll ask you what you want so I can do it tomorrow.

Do you want me to give one complete breakdown of the feat and if you don't see things my way, I'll be done here?

Or

Do you want me to just piss off?



Just tell me what you want babe. And I don't mean argue with me in this post, I mean do you actually want to know why I think the feat happened the way I think? I feel what I've posted speaks for itself so either option is okay with me.
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Gorr's Planet

Here's a couple images to establish what Gorr's planet looks like when on it. You'll note the atmosphere, usually a yellowish desert tone. Even when it's "night" out, you can still see it in a slightly different tone. Also note the rocky ground that rises up with crags and the like.

https://imgur.com/a/q4CUI

In those pictures, that big sphere is the moon sized Gorr bomb. So, with the information we have, I will point out important details about Gorr's planet

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So, with that in mind, we'll speak of the "planet" you think is Gorr's planet. You'll notice how you can literally see the roundness of it when they're fighting on it. You will notice no crags, or formations, no atmosphere. But we also have a comparison of it compared to Thor and Gorr. It is not very big, nor is it ever portrayed big.


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What this means is that the planet was not Gorr's planet. However, admittedly in Gorr's solar system.



The Moon

Your argument is that they were on Gorr's planet, and the cracking moon was the one Gorr got blasted into. So we'll look at the scene.

https://imgur.com/II01eBu
https://imgur.com/5MgP8Ms
https://imgur.com/IO16Fps


So, Gorr's planet was established as at least 2 lightyears away if not more from that moon.


Which is why Gorr made a black hole to bring his serpent in from around his planet, to that moon:
https://imgur.com/XU8Lnuw
https://imgur.com/91QaTT9
https://imgur.com/Uitonsu


The wormhole was still up when King Thor killed the Serpent
https://imgur.com/qXDbRyS


So basically, Gorr felt he needed to create a wormhole to bring his serpent in quick, because it was light years away. This is downplayed severely if this is the same moon, and this is Gorr's planet. This is what your argument is:
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And if that were the same moon, and we switch the argument to not be Gorr's planet, and instead a tiny moon, it means that Gorr created a worm hole to get to that distance we see in the scan. Which makes even less sense because that would mean the Serpent flew light years and then created a worm hole to cross at max the distance from Earth to Mars? There's no way he made a wormhole from world to world in that fight.



Which, keep in mind, 2 light years is about half the distance to the next closest star in real life. That is portrayed a little bit further than Thor was from that moon to say the least. However, the implication was that it was even more than 2 light years, and the wormhole brought them to another solar system.
However, to put light years into perspective, we have this (2 light years is beyond our entire solar system)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/...nterstellar.jpg

https://www.calculateme.com/Astrono...omicalUnits.htm


Which means that you're arguing that Gorr's planet was at least 126,482 AUs away from the Moon. That is 126,482 distances of our planet to the sun. And you think it was just meant to represent the line of sight Thor saw? Pluto to the sun is on an average of 40 AU for example.



However, we will look at the differences as well. We have this nice teal planet, that even looks that color when we get a close up of Gorr's face. The only times it doesn't it when the surface is broken through. We see no actual features to the moon. There's a little more pictures of the moon, but it shows the same thing. We also see where Gorr landed, which was a large divot in the moon. This moon was pretty consistent. Even the two panels I'm excluded show it being the same color.

https://imgur.com/3CNpRQB



And now, we get the "moon" Thor went to repair.
https://imgur.com/ZrRbMc9
https://imgur.com/yc64Xpj
https://imgur.com/pdhyfIt


First off, it's not even the same color. Second, it actually has features, along with an atmosphere, and it's habitable. Third, it's not even the same color.

There could be an argument made that it's supposed to be an actual planet, as the narration calls it so, and Thor just wasn't paying attention, but it doesn't matter. This was not the same moon on every level.




The Black Hole

This one is straight assumption territory, but considering we know the little planetoid Thor landed on when he went through the black hole wasn't Gorr's world, we can make a safe assumption here.

This is all we were shown of where it came from. We know it came from Gorr's world, but we never actually see it opening up a black hole from Gorr's world. See, no black hole

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So, we just assume it made the black hole a little further out by some planetoid moon. It's really that simple, because that's what happened. Though, it was in Gorr's solar system since they never went back through the black hole again, and like you said, went through the sun and landed on Gorr's world. That doesn't mean it came from Gorr's world however. Even if it did though, it wouldn't have been the same "moon", so it actually being Gorr's world directly rules it out from being the same moon immediately.

Though I am unsure of how landing on Gorr's world proves anything. I already said it was in the same solar system. Plus you don't just land in the sun and get blown to a planet. Which means Gorr's the one who did additional tinkering anyway.


So what we gather from this is that Thor was at the very least damaging that "moon" and it wasn't OKT that caused the damage since it wasn't the same moon. It's also very likely he destroyed that planetoid, especially since we saw it blasting apart, and Young Thor riding on chunks after. Which I'm not saying is a great feat, just something that likely happened. It did say worlds were shattered, but I'm not too interested in that. But it did say it nonetheless.




I'm not going to debate this further because you cannot in any way be correct. There is so much conflict to get to where you got, and the fact that you think that little planetoid is Gorr's world, and the moon is the one OKT blasted him into - which was at the very least 2 light years away - is just too much.

Should have told me to piss off, I would have. Now I'm going to piss off with this post, something that none of these Thorhomos would have even tried to explain. Which I probably shouldn't have even tried to explain either, but I am mildly curious as to your reaction. I predict either an lol smile or you debate this line by line.


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It's true. Ever since I've been off work mornings are shit. Everyone else works and I'm here just helicoptering my dick around.


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Sometimes I slowly get on my tippy toes like I'm about to fly off over the clouds. Then I fall back on my heels and the dream ends.

Making that sweet sweet worker's comp money though, so that's an upside.


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Originally posted by abhilegend
Unable to quote you. So this has to do.



Even if I take your word as it is, where is the ship in background to conclude that the blast radius was solar system level? And why didn't it destroy Asgard land mass if it was that powerful?

It's a brain. What are you trying to show here? Yat didn't destroy just the brain and let Ranx destroy itself. He destroyed Ranx totally and the green energy blast covers Mogo as well.

You forgot to add "no physical damage" which you're trying to argue.

So you are basically arguing that entire GLC for forty years of publication was handicapped?

That's the way to go.


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The ship was behind the blast. Or where did it go in your opinion? I don't know, why doesn't world break when Galactus blasts at it but it falls apart when Hulk steps on it?

That it's a weak point. He attacked the area that he knew would cause that reaction. Or what was the point of getting to it when he could one shot it from outside? There was none, because if you read the scans, you'll see that that point was vital to Ranx and attacking it caused the explosion. It was almost literally his death start hole.

He had no exterior damage, he had plenty of damage. You said he "fine" laughing out loud I posted that he clearly wasn't.

Yes. The ****? Abhi, listen to yourself. What was the main reason for the Sinestro Corp kicking the green lanterns ass in the war? That Sinestro, Arkillo, Ranx, etc mentioned was their downfall? Their inability to cross that line and kill.

What happened when they were allowed lethal force? They pushed back HARD. Read the definition I posted you. It hampered their ability to use their power to the max. This is fact.

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Tbf to Abhi.....

Mike Tyson is handicapped by rules which forbid him from killing.

Doesn't mean he's handicapped in beating the shit out of me lol. Or being unable to defend himself in a fight.


erm

He would indeed be considered handicapped if it wasn't your skinny ass and instead it was Lennox Lewis with brass knuckles while Tyson had to adhere to boxing rules. Could he defend himself? Obviously, that was never in contention, but I bet you he'd rather have those knuckles than boxing gloves.

That's not being fair minded, that's playing devils advocate to play devils advocate.


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Hmm... Back when the book came out, of all the back and forth on whether that celestial body in the background was either a planet or moon, things seem a little clearer now.

That celestial body in the background was most likely the planet the moon below them belonged to.

Always had it the other way around.

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Gorr's Planet


I'm eagerly awaiting this.
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Here's a couple images to establish what Gorr's planet looks like when on it. You'll note the atmosphere, usually a yellowish desert tone. Even when it's "night" out, you can still see it in a slightly different tone. Also note the rocky ground that rises up with crags and the like.

https://imgur.com/a/q4CUI


And it looked like this in the same issue.

http://viewcomic.com/wp-content/upl...017/02/2721.jpg

Quite bare looking if I may add.
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In those pictures, that big sphere is the moon sized Gorr bomb. So, with the information we have, I will point out important details about Gorr's planet

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And?
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So, with that in mind, we'll speak of the "planet" you think is Gorr's planet. You'll notice how you can literally see the roundness of it when they're fighting on it. You will notice no crags, or formations, no atmosphere. But we also have a comparison of it compared to Thor and Gorr. It is not very big, nor is it ever portrayed big.


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So are you saying that the "planet" Thor and Gorr fought was actually the moon of the planet?
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What this means is that the planet was not Gorr's planet. However, admittedly in Gorr's solar system.


Where did you get that? What leap of logic is this?

Gorr Serpent came from his planet in a wormhole.

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And Young Thor punched Gorr through same wormhole.

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But I'm supposed to think that it was a different planet because Ribic is an idiot and can't draw properly?

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The Moon

Your argument is that they were on Gorr's planet, and the cracking moon was the one Gorr got blasted into. So we'll look at the scene.

https://imgur.com/II01eBu
https://imgur.com/5MgP8Ms
https://imgur.com/IO16Fps


So, Gorr's planet was established as at least 2 lightyears away if not more from that moon.


OK?
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Which is why Gorr made a black hole to bring his serpent in from around his planet, to that moon:
https://imgur.com/XU8Lnuw
https://imgur.com/91QaTT9
https://imgur.com/Uitonsu


The wormhole was still up when King Thor killed the Serpent
https://imgur.com/qXDbRyS


So basically, Gorr felt he needed to create a wormhole to bring his serpent in quick, because it was light years away. This is downplayed severely if this is the same moon, and this is Gorr's planet. This is what your argument is:
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What the **** is your argument?
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And if that were the same moon, and we switch the argument to not be Gorr's planet, and instead a tiny moon, it means that Gorr created a worm hole to get to that distance we see in the scan. Which makes even less sense because that would mean the Serpent flew light years and then created a worm hole to cross at max the distance from Earth to Mars? There's no way he made a wormhole from world to world in that fight.


No, he made the wormhole from Gorr planet. Nothing in between.
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Which, keep in mind, 2 light years is about half the distance to the next closest star in real life. That is portrayed a little bit further than Thor was from that moon to say the least. However, the implication was that it was even more than 2 light years, and the wormhole brought them to another solar system.
However, to put light years into perspective, we have this (2 light years is beyond our entire solar system)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/...nterstellar.jpg

https://www.calculateme.com/Astrono...omicalUnits.htm


Which means that you're arguing that Gorr's planet was at least 126,482 AUs away from the Moon. That is 126,482 distances of our planet to the sun. And you think it was just meant to represent the line of sight Thor saw? Pluto to the sun is on an average of 40 AU for example.


This is your argument? That Thor couldn't see the moon from that distance? Is this for real?

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Gorr wife saw the whole fight and even felt the planet tremble. Gorr wife could see the light from lightyears as you proved but Thor can't see the moon from two lightyears?

Now unless she is also lying, I'm not sure what proof it is you need.
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However, we will look at the differences as well. We have this nice teal planet, that even looks that color when we get a close up of Gorr's face. The only times it doesn't it when the surface is broken through. We see no actual features to the moon. There's a little more pictures of the moon, but it shows the same thing. We also see where Gorr landed, which was a large divot in the moon. This moon was pretty consistent. Even the two panels I'm excluded show it being the same color.

https://imgur.com/3CNpRQB



And now, we get the "moon" Thor went to repair.
https://imgur.com/ZrRbMc9
https://imgur.com/yc64Xpj
https://imgur.com/pdhyfIt


First off, it's not even the same color. Second, it actually has features, along with an atmosphere, and it's habitable. Third, it's not even the same color.


Are you sure you are not blind? The moon is the same color with the same damage to what was shown earlier.
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There could be an argument made that it's supposed to be an actual planet, as the narration calls it so, and Thor just wasn't paying attention, but it doesn't matter. This was not the same moon on every level.


Oh right, because you say so.
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The Black Hole

This one is straight assumption territory, but considering we know the little planetoid Thor landed on when he went through the black hole wasn't Gorr's world, we can make a safe assumption here.


Who said its not the same planet?
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This is all we were shown of where it came from. We know it came from Gorr's world, but we never actually see it opening up a black hole from Gorr's world. See, no black hole




So, we just assume it made the black hole a little further out by some planetoid moon. It's really that simple, because that's what happened. Though, it was in Gorr's solar system since they never went back through the black hole again, and like you said, went through the sun and landed on Gorr's world. That doesn't mean it came from Gorr's world however. Even if it did though, it wouldn't have been the same "moon", so it actually being Gorr's world directly rules it out from being the same moon immediately.

Though I am unsure of how landing on Gorr's world proves anything. I already said it was in the same solar system. Plus you don't just land in the sun and get blown to a planet. Which means Gorr's the one who did additional tinkering anyway.


So what we gather from this is that Thor was at the very least damaging that "moon" and it wasn't OKT that caused the damage since it wasn't the same moon. It's also very likely he destroyed that planetoid, especially since we saw it blasting apart, and Young Thor riding on chunks after. Which I'm not saying is a great feat, just something that likely happened. It did say worlds were shattered, but I'm not too interested in that. But it did say it nonetheless.




I'm not going to debate this further because you cannot in any way be correct. There is so much conflict to get to where you got, and the fact that you think that little planetoid is Gorr's world, and the moon is the one OKT blasted him into - which was at the very least 2 light years away - is just too much.

Should have told me to piss off, I would have. Now I'm going to piss off with this post, something that none of these Thorhomos would have even tried to explain. Which I probably shouldn't have even tried to explain either, but I am mildly curious as to your reaction. I predict either an lol smile or you debate this line by line.


This is some good fanfiction. But you forgot something bran, we have done this before and I always won.

This time its not different either m


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Smh.

Someone just message Jason Aaron on Twitter. Add a note that they don't think a female like Jane Thor could destroy a planet. He'll quickly clarify AND have Jane Thor destroy a planet with her bare hands easily.

Planets shattering. Literally in the same panel with narration. But we have to do detective work to find out what REALLY happened. Comics are a visual medium written for the lowest common denominator in mind.


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I legitimately don't think I can read abbi's posts anymore. I've never seen Quan Dunning-Kruger quite that hard.
The fact that he still thinks that little planetoid is Gorr's planet and 2 light years was the distance in those panels literally blows me away, let alone everything else.

How is that better than simply admitting you're wrong, I don't know. I'm out of the abhi post reading game. Can't do it anymore. I know he'll take this as he made some great point I couldn't counter, but that's my whole point.
He made one actual point that entire post that I didn't already explain, one. And that was Gorr's wife seeing King Thor blast Gorr, and then Gorr kill all the slaves... And that somehow means two lightyears is shown as a hop and a skip away...

Done. He got me. I didn't even want to respond in any way but that... surprised me to say the least.


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