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AncientPower
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New Triumvirate power wank

First, allow me to extrapolate on what makes the relevant quote so impressive.

After the Sacking of Coruscant, Aryn Leneer returns to occupied capital and senses this:

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Due to her empathic sense, Aryn felt the dread in the air as a tangible thing, a pall that overhung the entire planet. It wore on her, weighed her down. The towers of duracrete and transparisteel seemed ready to fall in on her. She felt hunched, tensed in anticipation of a blow. The dread was omnipresent, an entire planet of billions of people projecting raw emotion into the air.

She could not wall them out. She did not want to wall them out. The Jedi had failed them. She deserved to feel what they felt.
- Decieved


Whilst fighting Sith Sabers on Dromund Kaas, Luke Skywalker senses this:

quote:
Luke and Jaina were fighting back-to-back. The Sith attacking them had two advantages. One was the fact that they outnumbered the two Jedi. The second was that they were being reinforced by the emanations of the dark-side nexus within the temple. It surged forth like psychic sewage, clogging the Jedi's reflexes as it fueled their enemies.
- Fate of the Jedi: Ascension


This is stated to be the state of the Republic during the Dark Wars:

quote:
The Sith seemed to have achieved the victory they had long sought. Less than one hundred Jedi, nearly all of them in hiding, survived the Sith's purge. Many citizens took this unimaginable event as proof that the Force had turned malevolent, or that cosmic balance was nothing more than a story for children. Despair was palpable, and many planets offered only halfhearted and ragged defense against Sith attackers. Planets throughout the slice surrendered, and the Sith fed on the psychic misery of a shattered Republic.
- The Essential Atlas


Essentially, the Triumvirate manufactured a dark-side miasma across the entire Republic.


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...through their actions, yes.


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AncientPower
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Which is still incredibly impressive.


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Originally posted by NewGuy01
...through their actions, yes.


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AncientPower
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Why are both of you missing the point? I even said they manufactured it. The point being was that they were feeding off of a miasma fueled by the psychic energy of the entire Republic. It's pretty damn insane when you think about.


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I suppose you have Krayt above the triumvirate then? Very nice.


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AncientPower
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Krayt didn't affect the Force. The Sith ruled more openly and vastly than they had since Revan's Empire, that's a big difference.


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He absolutely did. The Dark Side was more dominant than it ever had been in history, and the misery was palpable all across the galaxy.


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AncientPower
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You realise that me and Ant uncovered the quote you're referring to? I know exactly what it says.


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The quote can be found somewhere in here, along with other stuff:

https://imgur.com/a/eJu5E

One might even speculate Krayt himself had a hand in it, eh?

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These are the pertinent quotes:

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Alright everyone, show is over. Kneel before Darth Krayt.


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AncientPower
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Ah, some of that I was unaware of, honestly. All very impressive stuff. So Krayt Reborn > Emperor Krayt > DE Sheev?


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thumb up Krayt was the embodiment of the Dark Side in a time where it's sway was unparalleled.


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“Not since the days of Darth Revan and Darth Malak has the dark side ruled so convincingly.

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wizards of the coast strikes again laughing out loud

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Darth Revan level thumb up

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So the difference between these kinds of imbalances and the threat that Sidious posed is that by the end of TPM, Sidious was threatening the stability of the cosmic force through his mere existence even though he hadn't a fraction of the actual power and control of, say, Krayt or Revan/Malak. Likewise, prior to that Plagueis and Sidious unbalanced the Force through meditating on an island when neither of them were even among the five most politically powerful individuals in the galaxy.

So the first stages of the unbalance via Plagueis and Sidious's meditation was an act of raw willpower/exertion, the second stage was an act of influence over the source code of the Force, and the third was Palpatine just being really powerful. There's a clear distinction between this and the other Sith unbalancing the Force through fear and tyranny.

(This doesn't mean the OP isn't impressive, just adding this because some of you are making that comparison)


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In all seriousness yes, Elm is correct. Plagueis and Sheev threw the Force out of balance more thoroughly than it ever had been before, not by hunting the Jedi to nigh-extinction and ruling the entire galaxy with an iron fist, committing genocide etc, but simply by meditating against the Force. Sheev embodied the dark side and maintained the shroud with his sheer power after Tenebrous, his master and Plagueis set the stage for him.

In contrast, in the case of Revan, the Triumvirate and Krayt, the Force fell out of balance and slanted toward the dark side because of the widespread death, misery and most importantly, the annihilation of the Jedi Order. This was no personal achievement on their part, it was an achievement of their respective empires.


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In all seriousness yes, Elm is correct. Plagueis and Sheev threw the Force out of balance more thoroughly than it ever had been before, not by hunting the Jedi to nigh-extinction and ruling the entire galaxy with an iron fist, committing genocide etc, but simply by meditating against the Force. Sheev embodied the dark side and maintained the shroud with his sheer power after Tenebrous, his master and Plagueis set the stage for him.

In contrast, in the case of Revan, the Triumvirate and Krayt, the Force fell out of balance and slanted toward the dark side because of the widespread death, misery and most importantly, the annihilation of the Jedi Order. This was no personal achievement on their part, it was an achievement of their respective empires.

As impressive as Plagueis' feat was, the Clone Wars were responsible for the shroud of the Dark side. That was the whole reason for their existence.

quote:
Maul: I have missed soo much. The force feels... out of balance.
Savage Opress: Yes, there is conflict. The Clone Wars.

quote:
The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun, the Clone War has.


Plagueis' ritual took place in 42 BBY, ten years before TPM. During all that time, for all of Plagueis' grandiose notions, the Jedi hadn't sensed anything wrong. Yet Yoda immediately senses something is terribly wrong at the end of AOTC.

And at the time of TPM Maul was already a powerful Dark Sider, yet the first thing he notices after Talzin heals him is that the Force is out of balance, and immediately figures out the cause.

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^ AotC makes it clear that Mace and Yoda had noticed it for a while before Geonosis (and the clone army’s creation started around TPM).


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