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Surtur
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Well I don't live there so I'm not really sure who to believe, but according to these articles...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...gland-and-wales

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/52512...-statistics-uk/

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39729601

...violent crimes from knives and guns IS a growing problem. And personally I wouldn't consider a growing problem like that to be "perfectly fine". That's not to say that the crimes happen with anywhere near the frequency that they do in the USA, it would be an absolute epidemic if that were the case due to the difference in populations, but you just can't say that violent crimes going up THAT much in a single year is an indication of a system that can be pointed to as one that's actually working.


Yep, I don't think people in countries whose violent crime rate continues to rise should be making any judgments at all about the deaths we have from guns.


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In England we get by perfectly fine without settling for some South Park-esque "maybe the truth is in the middle" cop-out.

**** your stupid second amendment.


Donít you guys have mass acid attacks? Or no go zones?

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Donít you guys have mass acid attacks? Or no go zones?


Lots of acid and knife attacks as I recall. Violence on the rise.


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Its been going up for a few years but that's hardly any cause for alarm. In all likelihood it's because May restricted Stop and Search policy. All it needs is some refinement in policy, compared to the cultural shift needed to right the US. At the end of the day violent crime will always occur and it'll probably occur at similar rates in both the UK and the US with whichever method the population can access. The difference is that firearms are far more lethal than knives are and can kill vastly more people in a shorter amount of time. If its a choice between one or the other clearly the latter is preferable. And I did factor in the differences in population (and it should also be noted that the UK criteria for violent crime and the US criteria are pretty different).

Besides, it isn't like you can ban knives, they're an every day item.

I didn't say that it was necessarily a cause for alarm, I said it's a growing problem which disproves the notion that things over there are "perfectly fine" without guns. They're not fine, Hell you guys have a growing problem with gun crime despite the legality. Those who want to kill someone will find another way like a knife if guns are somehow magically removed from the equation. Someone who wants to kill a lot of someones will find another way like a bomb or vehicle if guns are removed from the equation.

And of course guns are more lethal, that's actually the appeal. A child with a gun can stop multiple intruders. A child with a knife... not so much(unless it's a kid like Ernie Reyes Jr). Guns are an equalizer, which is why it's important option for self defense.


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Donít you guys have mass acid attacks? Or no go zones?


The fact that people had to resort to freaking acid to attack someone speaks for itself imo.

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I didn't say that it was necessarily a cause for alarm, I said it's a growing problem which disproves the notion that things over there are "perfectly fine" without guns. They're not fine, Hell you guys have a growing problem with gun crime despite the legality. Those who want to kill someone will find another way like a knife if guns are somehow magically removed from the equation. Someone who wants to kill a lot of someones will find another way like a bomb or vehicle if guns are removed from the equation.

And of course guns are more lethal, that's actually the appeal. A child with a gun can stop multiple intruders. A child with a knife... not so much(unless it's a kid like Ernie Reyes Jr). Guns are an equalizer, which is why it's important option for self defense.


I see. When I said "perfectly fine without guns" you foolishly took that as me saying that we have no crime and live in a paradise. While at the time I was actually referring to Emb's dumb obsession with second amendment rights and commenting that in England we don't exactly weep for the oppressive restrictions on our ability to kill each other, I can see where you're coming from now. However, like I said the recent growth can be attributed to a specific change in stop and search policies and doesn't actually reflect upon our weapons policies. As you concede that knives are indeed less lethal than guns then my position stands. Bombs are too complicated and difficult to acquire for widespread use and vehicles are more restrictive and steps are being taken to make cities safer with barriers.

The very fact that your example is of a ****ing child murdering multiple people speaks of the depravity of the American mindset on this issue. That you see that as an appeal honestly sickens me. Regardless, this fantasy of Macaulay Culkin thwarting a home invasion is just that: A fantasy. Its not worth the blood that soaks your country. So yeah, the UK is better than you on this issue and I suspect will be for quite some time.


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The fact that people had to resort to freaking acid to attack someone speaks for itself imo.



I see. When I said "perfectly fine without guns" you foolishly took that as me saying that we have no crime and live in a paradise. While at the time I was actually referring to Emb's dumb obsession with second amendment rights and commenting that in England we don't exactly weep for the oppressive restrictions on our ability to kill each other, I can see where you're coming from now. However, like I said the recent growth can be attributed to a specific change in stop and search policies and doesn't actually reflect upon our weapons policies. As you concede that knives are indeed less lethal than guns then my position stands. Bombs are too complicated and difficult to acquire for widespread use and vehicles are more restrictive and steps are being taken to make cities safer with barriers.

The very fact that your example is of a ****ing child murdering multiple people speaks of the depravity of the American mindset on this issue. That you see that as an appeal honestly sickens me. Regardless, this fantasy of Macaulay Culkin thwarting a home invasion is just that: A fantasy. Its not worth the blood that soaks your country. So yeah, the UK is better than you on this issue and I suspect will be for quite some time.


Better than us on guns, wouldn't you rather have violent crime decreasing?


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http://news.gallup.com/poll/21346/c...an-britain.aspx

Crime Rate Lower in United States, Canada Than in Britain


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The fact that people had to resort to freaking acid to attack someone speaks for itself imo.


So acid attacks in Britain is no big deal then?

So according to you, you can whine about guns control in the US, but I canít call youíre country shitty for its massive acid attacks?

Good to know.

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I see. When I said "perfectly fine without guns" you foolishly took that as me saying that we have no crime and live in a paradise. While at the time I was actually referring to Emb's dumb obsession with second amendment rights and commenting that in England we don't exactly weep for the oppressive restrictions on our ability to kill each other, I can see where you're coming from now. However, like I said the recent growth can be attributed to a specific change in stop and search policies and doesn't actually reflect upon our weapons policies. As you concede that knives are indeed less lethal than guns then my position stands. Bombs are too complicated and difficult to acquire for widespread use and vehicles are more restrictive and steps are being taken to make cities safer with barriers.

Yeah see, we had a stop and frisk policy for a while over here too, but liberals were against it. And no, bombs aren't all that complicated to make... they're actually shockingly easy for anyone who's a fan of chemistry. I knew how to make explosives, napalm, and poisonous gases before I left highschool. And I didn't even have 24 hour access to the internet the way kids do nowadays. And you can't put up barriers everywhere, those who want to kill a lot of people with a car or truck will still have plenty of opportunity.

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The very fact that your example is of a ****ing child murdering multiple people speaks of the depravity of the American mindset on this issue. That you see that as an appeal honestly sickens me. Regardless, this fantasy of Macaulay Culkin thwarting a home invasion is just that: A fantasy. Its not worth the blood that soaks your country. So yeah, the UK is better than you on this issue and I suspect will be for quite some time.

It's not murder, it's self defense. And it's not a fantasy, it's actually happened multiple times. Here's a whole list of kids who've successfully used guns to protect themselves from wild animals, intruders, etc...

https://lawnews.tv/examples-of-kids...end-themselves/


And kids are just the most extreme example, guns also serve as an equalizer against intruders/attackers who are physically more powerful than them.


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Plenty of hypocrisy on this forum, you have a difference of opinion and get called a sock n other nonsense by children. Also no one can tell me why the conservative position is wrong

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I have a question for Nephy.

Do you agree with youíre country banning Lauren southern from stepping there due to racism?

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Originally posted by Nephthys
The fact that people had to resort to freaking acid to attack someone speaks for itself imo.



I see. When I said "perfectly fine without guns" you foolishly took that as me saying that we have no crime and live in a paradise. While at the time I was actually referring to Emb's dumb obsession with second amendment rights and commenting that in England we don't exactly weep for the oppressive restrictions on our ability to kill each other, I can see where you're coming from now. However, like I said the recent growth can be attributed to a specific change in stop and search policies and doesn't actually reflect upon our weapons policies. As you concede that knives are indeed less lethal than guns then my position stands. Bombs are too complicated and difficult to acquire for widespread use and vehicles are more restrictive and steps are being taken to make cities safer with barriers.

The very fact that your example is of a ****ing child murdering multiple people speaks of the depravity of the American mindset on this issue. That you see that as an appeal honestly sickens me. Regardless, this fantasy of Macaulay Culkin thwarting a home invasion is just that: A fantasy. Its not worth the blood that soaks your country. So yeah, the UK is better than you on this issue and I suspect will be for quite some time.


Translation. All OK with Violence as long as it can be used to Push The Lefts Religious Zealotry Levels of Political Hypocrisy.

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Its practically Official... Youtube and Twitter. They are Fascist Organizations.


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Its practically Official... Youtube and Twitter. They are Fascist Organizations.



Lol yep. Death threats are okay on twitter, but a video that makes SJW's fee fee's hurt? Can't have it.


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I have a question for Nephy.

Do you agree with youíre country banning Lauren southern from stepping there due to racism?


What boggles my mind is...didn't the country let former ISIS fighters back in? Or did they all come back illegally?

Also:



smh


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What boggles my mind is...didn't the country let former ISIS fighters back in? Or did they all come back illegally?

Also:



smh


According to some sources, they even gave them money to reintegrate into society.

Not surprise the people there are such pussies. They after all stood back and watch a soldier in uniform get his throat in broad daylight, in the middle of the street and did nothing.

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According to some sources, they even gave them money to reintegrate into society.

Not surprise the people there are such pussies. They after all stood back and watch a soldier in uniform get his throat in broad daylight, in the middle of the street and did nothing.


Except that the Brits don't REQUIRE them to "intergrate" into their society.


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Ben Shapiro points out when Moral Monstrosity is Socially Approved.

Ben Shapiro at Nat Review.

Cause Moral Monstrosity and Leftist Fascism pretty much walk hand in hand.


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Lots of acid and knife attacks as I recall. Violence on the rise.


*citation needed* *citation needed* *citation needed*

While we're on it, show me an "acid attack" that comes close to the 58 murdered in Las Vegas not long ago. Thanks in advance.


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