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Mace Windu without Vaapad
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Rockydonovang
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Originally posted by The Ellimist
I'd eyeball Plagueis level (overwhelming someone with uncharged lightning implies a pretty non-trivial gap)

Plagueis is<<<TPM Sidious bro(there was a massive power boost at the end of the movel). There's no way Mace can rival ROTS Sidious is he's plagy level

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@Rocky: That quote doesn't mean that he completely wiped away his anger. As you said yourself, he simply mastered it; as in, he kept his cool instead of letting his distress show.

So can you show me where the novel suggests he lost his cool when facing off against palps? If it's, "he was fighting for more than his life", I hope you're willing to apply that consistently.

At the end of the day, it's on you to prove the "exceptional circumstance" here fueling Mace's vapaad.

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The novel depicts his inner turmoil by likening his previous state to a "crystal so shot through with flaws that the hammer of those nine words crushed him to sand".

But to signify the resurrection of his "normal state" the novel says that "because he is Mace Windu, he takes this without a change of expression"

"Because he is Mace Windu, within a second, the man of sand is stone once more"

If we are debating semantics, which is essentially what we are doing if it has come down to this, clearly the expression "stone once more" signifies that Mace is back to his previous mental state.

As does the expression that says that he is now a "pure Jedi Master".

As does the obvious indication towards it, where he makes decisions that he now knows can change the fate of the entire galaxy, "coldly and without emotion".

Yeah, this is pretty explicit in emphasizing that his mental state is back to what it once was, or at least, he has completely resolved the turmoil of emotions within him.

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No wonder Anakin hated Windu. He was a man of sand in disguise. Happy Dance


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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Plagueis is<<<TPM Sidious bro(there was a massive power boost at the end of the movel). There's no way Mace can rival ROTS Sidious is he's plagy level


Where is dah power boost?

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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Plagueis is<<<TPM Sidious bro(there was a massive power boost at the end of the movel). There's no way Mace can rival ROTS Sidious is he's plagy level


Well a lightsaber duel would compress such differences; in the Force Windu was unable to handle his lightning.


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Mace's performances outside the fight strongly suggest that he's doing nothing more than reflecting Sidious' power back at the source. He's around Dooku level at best otherwise. Not that this is exactly a new concept.


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Well a lightsaber duel would compress such differences; in the Force Windu was unable to handle his lightning.


He got surprise-blasted and was already in pain when Whinnykin cut his hand off.


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Mace's performances outside the fight strongly suggest that he's doing nothing more than reflecting Sidious' power back at the source. He's around Dooku level at best otherwise. Not that this is exactly a new concept.


So why didn't he shoot the attack back at Palps when he was assaulted by those lightning bolts?


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