If enough suitable homes existed that were inclined to take in a troubled teen then there wouldn't be a problem in the first place now would there? There are too many foster kids, not enough homes for them, and an aversion to accepting a troubled older teen into the home preventing your ideal from ever actually being a reality. Happy stable households typically want babies and small children, they don't want a 15 year old with an attitude problem and/or violent tendencies even if those issues are rooted in the fact that the teen was repeatedly physically and sexually abused by their previous foster family. A lot of these kids aren't going to get families anyway and are simply going to be tossed out on the street to fend for themselves with zero life skills when they turn 18, how is preparing them to be able to fend for themselves worse than that fate?
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Look people in most places it's already ok for a 15 year old to get a job so I'm really not understanding what the big deal is here. I'm not talking about forcing an 8 year old to work 12 hours a day in a 100 degree factory for 25 cents an hour here, I'm talking about giving teens with a low probability of being placed in a loving home a chance to get a leg up on the real world before they're cut loose on their 18th birthday.
Something being worse doesn't mean that another bad idea is good by that merit. They're both bad; one just happens to be worse.
Has been said before in here: what's wrong with these orphans going to school like non-orphaned children? Do some soul-searching, dude. You're better than this.
I already said that a system for basic education could be worked into it. I'm not proposing that we send the message that math's and English isn't necessary, I just happen to believe that the opportunity to spend 6 hours a day doing busy work in school probably isn't worth being raped repeatedly to those who have to suffer through it.
Or hell let's meet in the middle, would you be ok with the idea as long as the kids at the camps got bused to school everyday?
We've been trying to crack down on the problem for years, it's still not going anywhere. So why wait for some magic remedy to people being pieces of shit if there's something we can do to help the problem NOW?
Well, if labor camps are the only solution in stopping orphans from being raped apparently, what happens when an orphan gets raped while at labor camp? *plot thickens*
That's why I talked about strict oversight of the whole thing. I'm not talking messing around when I say "strict", I'd damn near want to big brother the entire camps. What's more, it's still a voluntary program. One of it's primary appeals is that the kids are safer from rape, if rape becomes a problem no one's going to choose to stay there. Then they'd have to work AND be raped as opposed to just sitting around the house and being raped.
That’s after all the things I mentioned are taken away. How is that so hard to understand.
A brand new private makes around a 1000 a month.
The author was never saying force labor, it’s you guys that’s calling it force labor. He just wanted to see if there was a way to help foster home children learn a trade before leaving the foster care.
I'm simply pragmatic. As we've discussed before, I don't have faith in human beings. I have no patience in waiting around for some magical shift in human nature or in simply hoping that one day things will somehow work out while children are abused DAILY. The foster system has been broken pretty much since it's inception so I think what we need to focus on is trying to make sure that more and more kids aren't screwed up forever while people who aren't currently suffering under it daily wish as hard as they can for someone to appear with a magic wand that suddenly makes all the bad stuff go away.
Right now under the current system, the kids I'm talking about are just screwed plain and simple. I think it's time we at least gave them another option even if it's not an ideal option.
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