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Stovenutts
My fez is familiar?
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Christ-Neo
After the first few times i saw the Matrix, i've noticed things probably alot of people have noticed: the similarity of Neo to Christ.
Lets look at Neo's real name, Thomas Anderson. The name "Thomas" can be linked to "Doubting Thomas", in that Neo never really believed that he was The One. "Anderson" is a play on "Son of Man", where the 'Ander-' finds its origins in the New Testament Greek root "andros"meaning man. Christ is the "Son of Man".
"Neo" means "new"
"Neo" Anderson = New Son of Man
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Jun 7th, 2003 02:57 AM |
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Neo_77
Welcome to the Real World
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Lets look at Neo's real name, Thomas Anderson. The name "Thomas" can be linked to "Doubting Thomas", in that Neo never really believed that he was The One. "Anderson" is a play on "Son of Man", where the 'Ander-' finds its origins in the New Testament Greek root "andros"meaning man. Christ is the "Son of Man".
"Neo" means "new"
"Neo" Anderson = New Son of Man [/B][/QUOTE]
The makers of the Matrix do not claim the Christian faith at all. Quite the opposite; they claim to be post modernists, meaning that they believe in a universal faith that if there is a Heaven, then all roads will take us there. In spite of that, however, the biblical parallels are too obvious to ignore. Humanity is in bondage, and there are prophecies of an almighty 'One' who will come free them if they accept what he has to offer. Neo dies and resurrects himself. The parallels are all over, but in the end, the overpowering theme is "freedom" as opposed to rules. The Matrix is teaching that rules only bring us down, and that if we truly free our minds, then we will understand that rules can be bent and broken, and we through that can reach our full potential. Why the Christian parallels are there I do not know, but I do know that the creators are not intending to promote Christianity, unless their views have changed since the last time I heard about it.
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Jun 7th, 2003 03:29 AM |
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Kes
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They do have alot of stuff from the bible!
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Jun 7th, 2003 03:39 AM |
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i agree they have used a lot of stuff from the bible. for instance the name of the hovercraft in the first movie, the name of the city, zion. the idea of an originally perfect matrix then it turned bad.
i think, though, that they may have just used them because they think they are good names and stuff, and i dont think that neo is saying 'new'. i think they just rearranged the letters in 'one'.
although that is very good logic about neo and anderson. i wouldnt have thought of it.
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happy rules:
-->there is no giant foot trying to squash me.
-->there is no such thing as aliens.
-->even though i may ignite, i probably wont.
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Jun 7th, 2003 05:10 AM |
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alaba
THE ONE
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yep..morpheous teaches about faith..beleiving in oneself 'you have to let it all go neo, fear doubt disbelief, free your mind...thats faith!
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Jun 7th, 2003 08:04 AM |
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Stovenutts
My fez is familiar?
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also u can see that the crew of the nebuchadnezzer seems to represent Jesus' 12 desciples. Morpheous also represents Peter, the desciple that Jesus gave the keys to heaven to- even though Neo didn't give them to morpheous, morpheous did have the access codes to the zion maneframe.Zion is a haven to all who are free and in a way he had the keys
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I think a good gift for the President would be a chocolate revolver. And since he's so busy, you'd probably have to run up to him real quick and hand it to him.
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Jun 7th, 2003 04:36 PM |
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trav6612
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I think that the W. Brothers put those symbolism in there for a reason. Just like everything else in the matrix, there is something beyond what it seems. I don't think they put it into promote christianity, but I think they put it in for a reason. What reason? I am open for ideas?
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Jun 7th, 2003 05:46 PM |
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Kes
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well they could be clues as to what happens next, but not every body is gonne get it! like all I got was the Neo being the same letters for one and that morpheous is the god of dreams from freek mithologi thats about it. Oh and that Cypher sounds kinda like lucifer.
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Jun 7th, 2003 06:04 PM |
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Kes
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lol not freek ...greek man lol *laughing my head of*
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Jun 7th, 2003 06:05 PM |
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alaba
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trav6612, they definitely didnt put it all together to promote christianity, well not conciously though..you know the bible said god could raise stones to worship him if men don't, so see this as a means to an end..god does work in mysterious ways and he'll get his kingdom preached one way or another.....ha ha!
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Jun 7th, 2003 06:38 PM |
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trav6612
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That is one funky way to preach, don't ya think?
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Jun 7th, 2003 07:51 PM |
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Stovenutts
My fez is familiar?
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hey princess leia... neo does mean new
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I think a good gift for the President would be a chocolate revolver. And since he's so busy, you'd probably have to run up to him real quick and hand it to him.
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Jun 7th, 2003 07:54 PM |
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Stovenutts
My fez is familiar?
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i think Neo will end up dying as a sacrafice in the third movie if all this stuff is foreshadowing.
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I think a good gift for the President would be a chocolate revolver. And since he's so busy, you'd probably have to run up to him real quick and hand it to him.
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Jun 7th, 2003 07:58 PM |
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trav6612
She is Hot
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It oculd be, but to what end would he die? To save mankind? or to end the matrix?
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Jun 7th, 2003 09:16 PM |
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Stovenutts
My fez is familiar?
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Hmmm, thats a good question trav.
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I think a good gift for the President would be a chocolate revolver. And since he's so busy, you'd probably have to run up to him real quick and hand it to him.
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Jun 7th, 2003 09:25 PM |
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Stovenutts
My fez is familiar?
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Does anybody else feel that the architech was sortof like God. God the father, Neo is the son, who represents the other part of the trinity- the holy spirit?
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I think a good gift for the President would be a chocolate revolver. And since he's so busy, you'd probably have to run up to him real quick and hand it to him.
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Jun 7th, 2003 09:27 PM |
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trav6612
She is Hot
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I would say, if you want to make that analogy, the oracle, because she was the guide for Neo along the way, as the Holy spirit is for us on the earth, a guide.
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Jun 7th, 2003 10:08 PM |
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Skittles19
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The Wachowski bros. use ideas and symbols from a variety of religions and beleif systems... if they intended neo to be a Christ-like figure.. I don't think they're doing a good job... Christ is supposed to be w/ out sin... hmmm Neo harldy fits that description... not that I don't like neo.. I just think his character is not even worthy of a Christ-like parallel
Maybe more of a superman :P
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Jun 7th, 2003 11:13 PM |
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The Omega
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The films have stuff from Zen-Buddhism, Greek and Roman mythology, Islam, Christianity and probably a handful other religion.
So it’s somewhat of a hi-jacking of the Matrix mythology, to claim it’s Christian.
More than anything the elusive Wachowski Brothers are using the old-fashioned heros quest, a good deal of cyberpunk, some eastern spirituality about the world being an illusion etc. It’s actually more Buddhistic than Christian, with the entire “the world is not real” issue, “free your mind”, and Neo being someone to lift the veil.
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Jun 8th, 2003 04:01 AM |
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Stovenutts
My fez is familiar?
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Well, you cant just say its Buddhistic because they say "the world is not real". The bible tells us that we are all "not of this world"and that the World is just a temporary place and that if we "free our minds",in that we put all faith in God we will live eternity in Heaven.
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I think a good gift for the President would be a chocolate revolver. And since he's so busy, you'd probably have to run up to him real quick and hand it to him.
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