DarkSaint85
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
@Darksaint...
How many scans does he have to post? Example, if he post a single showing of Surfer surviving a super nova, will you cap that at his durability? Kinda like you do Flash. You use his minimum as his average. Does that apply to Surfer as well?
I asked for a single scan of him using cosmic awareness mid battle.
Just one.
Because that's what he claimed initially.
Do YOU have it? Not threatening Glads, but actually doing it. If you want to jump in mid thread, better know how things started.
Good to have you in the thread, btw. This is what he claimed:
quote: His durability is enough to tank anything Diana throws at him, considering that he isn't getting hurt by World War Hulk while weakened,a
As the resident Hulk AND WW expert, is this true??
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Mar 20th, 2018 04:06 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer's record against black holes/supernovas/planet busting attacks are hardly awe inspiring.
When was the last time you read anything with Surfer in the last 15 years of his comics? Because he has several feats that would put him on Supernova level.
A headbutt from Surfer destroyed a planet. A HEADBUTT.
Mar 20th, 2018 04:07 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I asked for a single scan of him using cosmic awareness mid battle.
Just one.
Because that's what he claimed initially.
Do YOU have it? Not threatening Glads, but actually doing it. If you want to jump in mid thread, better know how things started.
Good to have you in the thread, btw. This is what he claimed:
As the resident Hulk AND WW expert, is this true??
I said he could use it. I never said he would. But if he can, he can use it. Cosmic Awareness is pretty much always there, as been explained by Marvel, it's kind of like Spiderman's spider sense in a way, except it let's you know what is going on around the universe and know people's weaknesses and strength's. I would say that he can use it to his advantage in a battle, but I wouldn't say with 100% certainty that he would use it.
Mar 20th, 2018 04:10 PM
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Mar 20th, 2018 04:13 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Byond
When was the last time you read anything with Surfer in the last 15 years of his comics? Because he has several feats that would put him on Supernova level.
A headbutt from Surfer destroyed a planet. A HEADBUTT.
Well pretty much everything in Surfer.
Oh, you think it was a headbutt and not the energy blast from Surfer and Morg which destroyed it?
Too bad you can't even read a scan.
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Mar 20th, 2018 04:16 PM
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The Drax that could rip cores out of stars couldn't beat down Thor and BRB.
Have you read anything post 2000 from the Surfer?
Mar 20th, 2018 04:16 PM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Byond
Funny you mention me being a Surfer Fanboy as I am not since I do not like Surfer that much. I rather read a Superman comic. I would say that the best comics out there is Spider-Man and Batman comics. Superman is good, but can't really compare to the more relatable characters.
You however seem like one of the many Superman fanboys that can't take your favorit hero actually getting beaten by a more powerful hero.
Superman would beat Surfer given enough time. But Surfer ain't gonna sit around and let Superman power up.
Not as funny but yeah, go ahead and post those scans.
I eagerly await these.
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Mar 20th, 2018 04:17 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer's record against black holes/supernovas/planet busting attacks are hardly awe inspiring.
But if I post that one showing proving he can survive black holes, that should discredit his lows, right?
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Mar 20th, 2018 04:23 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
But if I post that one showing proving he can survive black holes, that should discredit his lows, right?
Carvster, your discussion is with me and on a totally unrelated subject . Read my post at the top of this page directed at you.
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Mar 20th, 2018 04:24 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I asked for a single scan of him using cosmic awareness mid battle.
Just one.
Because that's what he claimed initially.
Do YOU have it? Not threatening Glads, but actually doing it. If you want to jump in mid thread, better know how things started.
Good to have you in the thread, btw. This is what he claimed:
As the resident Hulk AND WW expert, is this true??
He's using WWH when the fight doesn't mean much since both was weakened. Now if he can provide solid evidence just for the sake of this thread, that he could tank Diana punches, me using the debating talent of someone who inspires me, Dark Saint, then the answer is yes, Diana can't hurt him "only for the purpose of this thread".
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Mar 20th, 2018 04:26 PM
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What makes you think I have scans. I need to take them from the internet, which I will not do today. Wait for tomorrow and I would have him surviving Black Holes. And riding Supernovas.
There really isn't anything that I have said that Surfer have not been able to do in recent years. Read the Annihilation stories and beyond and you would realize just how powerful Surfer and Quasar and Nova and the others have gotten for the past 10-15 years.
Mar 20th, 2018 04:27 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
He's using WWH when the fight doesn't mean much since both was weakened. Now if he can provide solid evidence just for the sake of this thread, that he could tank Diana punches, me using the debating talent of someone who inspires me Dark Saint, yes, Diana can't hurt him "only for the purpose of this thread".
Cool, so his example was incorrect and faulty. Thanks, you're the best. As the fight he's using, against Hulk, is incorrect.
And my question was about cosmic awareness. Have you got that scan, please? Asking for like the sixth time.
My point was that whilst Surfer has a list of powers as long as my arm, using them is another matter.
Like cosmic awareness, which is what I used to prove my point. If you can refute it, please do.
That's all.
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Mar 20th, 2018 04:29 PM
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Did Surfer not withstand the initial attack from Galactus "Herald my rage"?
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Mar 20th, 2018 04:30 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Byond
The Drax that could rip cores out of stars couldn't beat down Thor and BRB.
Have you read anything post 2000 from the Surfer?
He couldn't even beat she hulk.
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Yes, I've read every single appearance Surfer has. quote: (post ) Originally posted by Byond
What makes you think I have scans. I need to take them from the internet, which I will not do today. Wait for tomorrow and I would have him surviving Black Holes. And riding Supernovas.
There really isn't anything that I have said that Surfer have not been able to do in recent years. Read the Annihilation stories and beyond and you would realize just how powerful Surfer and Quasar and Nova and the others have gotten for the past 10-15 years.
I will wait eagerly for such scans.
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Mar 20th, 2018 04:30 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
He's using WWH when the fight doesn't mean much since both was weakened. Now if he can provide solid evidence just for the sake of this thread, that he could tank Diana punches, me using the debating talent of someone who inspires me Dark Saint, yes, Diana can't hurt him "only for the purpose of this thread".
Hulk wasn't at full power at the start of the fight but he powered up more and more as the fight went on. And Surfer didn't take any damage from the punches, and this was after he had lost his power cosmic abilities at the time. But that was a weakened Surfer, so not really applicable to this fight if we go by their powers that they have..
Mar 20th, 2018 04:30 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
But if I post that one showing proving he can survive black holes, that should discredit his lows, right?
It would change his average from shitty to somewhat better.
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Mar 20th, 2018 04:31 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cool, so his example was incorrect and faulty. Thanks, you're the best. As the fight he's using, against Hulk, is incorrect.
And my question was about cosmic awareness. Have you got that scan, please? Asking for like the sixth time.
My point was that whilst Surfer has a list of powers as long as my arm, using them is another matter.
Like cosmic awareness, which is what I used to prove my point. If you can refute it, please do.
That's all.
First I like to ask, does he need to scream out he's using cosmic awareness or would evidence of him using it without him sounding like a power ranger, yelling out his next move, would work?
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Mar 20th, 2018 04:32 PM
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Really using those scans. He fought Surfer and Thanos and Thor when they were all planet busters and actually equaled them in power.
Mar 20th, 2018 04:32 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Byond
Hulk wasn't at full power at the start of the fight but he powered up more and more as the fight went on. And Surfer didn't take any damage from the punches, and this was after he had lost his power cosmic abilities at the time. But that was a weakened Surfer, so not really applicable to this fight if we go by their powers that they have..
He couldn't power up due to the disk. That was one of the main reasons the disk was on him.
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Mar 20th, 2018 04:33 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cool, so his example was incorrect and faulty. Thanks, you're the best. As the fight he's using, against Hulk, is incorrect.
And my question was about cosmic awareness. Have you got that scan, please? Asking for like the sixth time.
My point was that whilst Surfer has a list of powers as long as my arm, using them is another matter.
Like cosmic awareness, which is what I used to prove my point. If you can refute it, please do.
That's all.
Jeez, you really need to learn to understand English, if you have no way to understand what I said about it. How much would I have to say shit before you actually understand a simple sentence in English?
Mar 20th, 2018 04:35 PM
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