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Apocalypse vs. Thor

Thor as of the end of Ragnarok, but with mjolnir back

vs.

Apolcaypse

They start on opposite ends of Times Square in an evacuated NYC.


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Originally posted by The Ellimist
Thor as of the end of Ragnarok, but with mjolnir back

vs.

Apolcaypse

They start on opposite ends of Times Square in an evacuated NYC.


Good thread. I'd say Apoc.


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It's kind of hard to argue one way, or another with Apocalypse, since his abilities seemed to be purely plot driven, he could basically do whatever was needed in that moment. All we know is he's less than the Phoenix.


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It's kind of hard to argue one way, or another with Apocalypse, since his abilities seemed to be purely plot driven, he could basically do whatever was needed in that moment. All we know is he's less than the Phoenix.


Actually it would be interesting to see Apoc vs Phoenix in a 1vs1.

Because remember, Apoc was fighting Cyclops, Magneto, Charles, and the other mutants at the same time. Isn't like he was 1vs1 Jean.


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Yeah, but he was pretty much ignoring everyone else


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Yeah, but he was pretty much ignoring everyone else


Still wasting energy to shield Magneto's attack and the other mutants. Isn't like he was 100% focused on attacking her or countering her.


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Apoc stomps


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I agree that Apoc SHOULD win.

I'm just having trouble finding "feats" on the "how".

I guess constantly burrying Thor in millions of tons of concrete would eventually tire him out and maybe suffocate maybe?

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That's the one issue with Apocalypse. His powers were really diverse, but they were hardly tested against anyone of notable durability.

He has a very solid defensive game though, given his forcefields + healing factor.


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Yeah, but he was pretty much ignoring everyone else
Nah, sure he could ignore them initially, but after Jean's attack Cyclops, Magneto, and Storm were able to significantly hurt him.


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It's always tricky debating on Apoc. He's strong enough to create pyramids yet have never taken out anyone of notable durability, not even street-level X-men characters.

I guess he can smother Thor under tons of sand but I don't know how his sand will react if Thor just continues blasting it with lightning.


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He destroyed a city Thor’s admitted best bolt barely destroyed the front portion of the castle. Apoc destroying Cairo >>>>Thor’s laughable weak lightning spam


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I agree that Apoc SHOULD win.

I'm just having trouble finding "feats" on the "how".

I guess constantly burrying Thor in millions of tons of concrete would eventually tire him out and maybe suffocate maybe?


I think Apoc try to mental control Thor. Suffocating him would also work.


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En sabah doesn’t have TP


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En sabah doesn’t have TP


Um..... confused

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I think Apoc try to mental control Thor. Suffocating him would also work.


Edit: try


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Apocalypse's "telepathy" was weird. Because I can only ever recall him using any form of telepathy while Xavier was either serving as a focus/conduit (like the missile scene, or the one where he had Xavier broadcast his message), or had already pulled him into the astral plane to do battle (the whole "this is my house" bit during the final battle). IIRC, Apocalypse even said that despite all the gifts he had, the ability to touch minds, like Xavier, wasn't one of them. It's the entire reason he was trying to take his body at the end of the film.


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Apocalypse's "telepathy" was weird. Because I can only ever recall him using any form of telepathy while Xavier was either serving as a focus/conduit (like the missile scene, or the one where he had Xavier broadcast his message), or had already pulled him into the astral plane to do battle (the whole "this is my house" bit during the final battle). IIRC, Apocalypse even said that despite all the gifts he had, the ability to touch minds, like Xavier, wasn't one of them. It's the entire reason he was trying to take his body at the end of the film.


I think this could be explained as Apoc having just incredibly strong will power but no actual telepathy.


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