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Was Coruscant a light side nexus?
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Galan007
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Came across these little tidbits and thought they were worth posting here...

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Freedon Nadd
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Canon?


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Galan007
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It's from the 2016 Nexus of Power Sourcebook(I'm sure it's been mentioned here before.) It lists most of the noteworthy force nexuses/vergences in the galaxy... Seems to be a mix of canon and Legends, tbh.

That said, I only posted those excerpts in this thread because they help corroborate information we were given in the Tarkin novelization:
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"The two of them were in Sidious's lair, a small rock-walled enclosure beneath the deepest of the Palace's several sublevels that had once been an ancient Sith shrine. That the Jedi had raised their Temple over the shrine had for a thousand years been one of the most closely guarded secrets of those Sith Lords who had perpetuated and implemented the revenge strategy of the Jedi Order's founders. Even the most powerful of Dark Side Adepts believed that shrines of the sort existed only on Sith worlds remote from Coruscant, and even the most powerful of the Jedi believed that the power inherent in the shrine had been neutralized and successfully capped. In truth, that power had seeped upward and outward since its entombment, infiltrating the hallways and rooms above, and weakening the Jedi Order much as the Sith Masters themselves had secretly infiltrated the corridors of political power and toppled the Republic. Save for Sidious, no sentient being in close to five thousand years had set foot in the shrine... Even Vader was unaware of the shrine's existence."


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Freedon Nadd
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Does that undermine Plagueis and Sidious' cosmic feats against the Jedi Order or Sidious' use of periodic Sith rituals to fog the Jedi's Force foresight?


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Galan007
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To some extent, yes.


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In Canon Nexus are mostly pretty negligible in terms of combat performance.

Exception of course being Mortis.

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I don’t think the Sith shrine under the Jedi temple exists in legends.


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To some extent, yes.


Wait a moment. Isn't that Sith shrine depicted in Sithisis? Palpatine does same real job there.


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Galan007
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The Ultimate Visual Guide explains the events of Sithisis a bit:

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Freedon Nadd
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It is confirmed. Palpatine needed a dark side nexus to do what he did.


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Galan007
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Not necessarily. Though the evidence does suggest that the shrine's influence may have made the task easier for Palpatine in the long run.


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Freedon Nadd
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Uh, yeah!?

On Kalakar Six and in Sithisis(a single torrent of his Force lightning turned into charred husk and ash three Dark Side Prophets and that Sith wyrm) Yet, he isn't able to do so with Windu(who is kind of 'unarmed' and receives his full power from the Force lightning)


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Galan007
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Which is exactly why I don't like comparing Legends to canon, and vice versa.

No need to make the franchise more inconsistent than it already is.


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Freedon Nadd
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Yes, but the Sith shrine is Legends, though.


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Galan007
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Where canon is concerned, all we know is that the Sith shrine existed under the Jedi Temple, and helped to corrupt/weaken the Jedi(to *some* extent) over the years. We also know the shrine's influence may have ultimately made it easier for Palpatine to overthrow the Order as a whole.

That doesn't necessarily canonize the events of Sithisis by default, however.


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Palpatine has to turn one of the most powerful Jedi in the Order into ash or his power is called into question? Wouldn't that signify the amount of power Windu has in his (one armed) body as opposed to a lack on Palpatine's part?
You might as well be putting everyone on the same resistance level to lightning if that's the case.


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Where canon is concerned, all we know is that the Sith shrine existed under the Jedi Temple, and helped to corrupt/weaken the Jedi(to *some* extent) over the years. We also know the shrine's influence may have ultimately made it easier for Palpatine to overthrow the Order as a whole.

That doesn't necessarily canonize the events of Sithisis by default, however.


Sithisis is non-Legends, then?


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Palpatine has to turn one of the most powerful Jedi in the Order into ash or his power is called into question? Wouldn't that signify the amount of power Windu has in his (one armed) body as opposed to a lack on Palpatine's part?
You might as well be putting everyone on the same resistance level to lightning if that's the case.


Mind=blown.
Windu>Palpatine. I knew it.


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Also, Revan was able to deflect an ashy lightning attack against Nyriss with a bare effort.


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Mind=blown.
Windu>Palpatine. I knew it.
Palpatine not turning Windu into ash while killing him wouldn't lead you into that false dichotomy. It means his power wasn't enough to instantly vaporize him, and he cut it off before that happened.

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Also, Revan was able to deflect an ashy lightning attack against Nyriss with a bare effort.
Do you think this would strengthen or hinder your case when looking at this without full context would imply the resistance to force lightning would have a direct correlation to your power, and is the difference between ash and unharmed? That of course would naturally flow into varying degrees of damage depending on your resistance.


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