If he's thinking of the scene I'm thinking of, Batman and Cass had a little "heart to heart" where they substituted fighting for words. It was in no way a serious fight.
Afterwards, Oracle asked him what would happen if they fought for real, and Batman responds matter of factly: "I'd lose".
There's a scan floating around somewhere of the scene..
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If Zack is actually edging out the Marvel Guy, it probably isn't a very close fight.
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Cue "it's feats" for Azrael, "PIS" for Danny usual double standards.
Because Iron Fist hasn't been racking up impressive feats since the 1970's.
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The way JPV is being treated lately? Yeah, it would be one hell of a matchup. His swords can make it a one-shot, if they actually connect. JPV is >>> Cassandra Cain/Batman.
If we use Lane, I'd see Michael winning. Suit of Sorrows would be too much.
The ability to move as fast as Daredevil, and hit as hard as Thing is pretty underrated. I mean, a Cap vs Danny match should look like this:
Cap: *Throws punch*
Danny: *Throws punch at same time*
Danny wins.
You can't really attack and evade at the same time, is my point. It's like Ryu's Dragon Punch in Street Fighter: It has priority over EVERYTHING that isn't adamantium claws.
And the thing is, counter punching is something he's done in canon.
It's not just something I'm making up, he's used the Iron Fist to blast right through lesser attacks, and even used it to defend against sword strikes and such.
It's called "counter punching". Any Martial Artist on Shang Chi's level with such an attack would be unbeatable, if they fought defensively. It would be like trying to fight someone who, at a single touch, can suck out your soul. Like Stormbringer, from Michael Moorecocks Elric saga.
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Danny's fought against swords that can beat him. As far back as Marvel Premier, in fact, where he first appeared.
He was skilled enough to catch the sword on the flat side, with one hand, mid swing. No chi protection.
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