Sounds like it's only "easy" if you can actually pass the background check.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Her point was that it's very easy to buy a gun in the US and she is correct. Multiple examples showing the ease of getting a gun have been cited and I even used the one pertaining to Nikolas Cruz specifically.
You're scraping the barrel to attack her like the retards who made that nonsense story about her bullying Cruz because he was pro-gun and Cruz being the real victim in all is.
Only it's not very easy, you have to meet all the legal requirements to buy a gun from a store.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
That's a failure of the agency's that should have been putting his info into the system, so it would show up on a background check.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Your examples don't hold up. You said Walmart didn't do background checks and one example you used was a private transaction.
For Paddock...I don't think he had anything in his background that would have come up to stop him from getting a gun. So the fact he passed a background check doesn't show they aren't good enough. Sometimes people commit crimes without having done anything prior to hint they would do it.
For Cruz I don't know if the background check failed or not. I am aware that the police were alerted to this kid many many times. I have no clue if any of those warnings should have been added to something that would come up in a background check. If they were not added then that is a failure of law enforcement, not background checks.
Reminds me of the guy from Texas who shouldn't have been able to buy a gun, but the military dropped the ball.
It is not "easy" to get a gun. You need the money to buy it, an ID, and if you wanna get it from anyone licensed you need to pass a background check. How quickly that check is done is irrelevant, what is relevant is the accuracy.
Plus hey, you need an ID. This is not an easy thing to get. At least...that is what the people who scream that needing an ID to vote is racist say.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
Why did the ACLU and other disability advocacy groups also approve of it?
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
I stopped reading after you of all people whined about a strawman.
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I never said one didn't need a background check. I said her point was that it's very easy to get a gun in the US and it is. I then used various examples of people buying guns same-day from stores.
IIRC over 10,000 people have failed the background check for mental health in the last 10-15 years. so either his mental issues weren't reported to the proper agency so that it'd show up on a background check or the report wasn't serious enough to exclude him.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
That's 660ish to 1,000 failures per year. That's not a whole lot.
According to the FBI database, there were 25+ million NICS firearm background checks in 2017. 8+ million in 2003 and 12+ million in 2008. 4.3 million since Feb of this year.
When you only have 1 example of someone who passed that you think should have been refused due to his record of mental health issues and 10,000 that failed.
That sounds like a pretty good percentage.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Cruz wasn't denied because he qualified under the set standards. iirc, he purchased 7 guns since turning 18, or within a year or so of his murder spree.
I wasn't aware that Cruz sought treatment for metal health issues and thus had an official record that a background check could find. do you have a link?
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
If he doesn't have official records that would show up on a background check, how can you expect a background check to catch sed problems and fail him?
There you go, if he was found to be stable. what more do you want?
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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