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tkitna -- shut the f8ck up.


Oh, so he's been doing it for so long that its become second nature and he doesn't have to think about it. He is still very aware of it you mental midget. Its the same as you breathing. Although you don't think about it, unfortunately you keep doing it.


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Fail. ANY Character can suppresses their strength.


Exactly. Pantherjob wants proof when all he has to do is pick up any book besides Superman and witness super strong characters doing normal things and touching normal people without breaking them. Its not hard (well for most).


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Originally posted by tkitna
Oh, so he's been doing it for so long that its become second nature and he doesn't have to think about it. He is still very aware of it you mental midget. Its the same as you breathing. Although you don't think about it, unfortunately you keep doing it.


... He's on panel crushing his own body near to death via his own mind's subconscious control over his physical body.

You enormous mental incompetent.

Being aware doe not change the fact that it operates via subconscoous control.

You said it was not subconsious.

You're a proven liar at this point.

retard.

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Fail. ANY Character can suppresses their strength.

So what?

Any character can suppress their speed as well.

Every character=Superman in level of control over speed levels according to you, eh idiot?

Prove that claim.

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Superman DOES NOT HAVE dynamic strength.

That's already been proven, conclusively.

You're just lying now.

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Every writers that has ever worked with DC or Marvel or both ALL agree that Hulk strength will greatly surpass supermans when he gets angry.

Irrelevant.

Hulk has nothing whatsoever to do with this thread.

Any reference to Hulk as a way to ignore Superman's proven abilities is a concession that you dont have an argument.

Hulk's version of dynamic strength is NOT the only way to portray that ability.

Gladiator, Solo Series Wonder Man, Sentry, Plutonian, all have Dynamic stats to VARYING degrees idiot.

Hmmm. I wonder what else those characters have in common...?

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Now in order for that to happen and be agreed upon, supermans strength HAS to be set in stone, at a certain point, and known by the writers.


.. his creator says he's as strong as he thinks he is and on panel his power is dependent upon his force of will.

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You will NEVER hear any of them say this character is stronger than superman until he drops his mental blocks.

... Except when they have.

.. like Doomsday.

Idiot.


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If that were the case, it would have been FLAT OUT STATED in THOUSANDS of comics. So again... FAILURE!


We have him flat out displaying the abilities in multiple storylines.. including summer crossover dedicating to highlighting this ability, like OWAW.

Cry more idiot.

and one more thing:

[IMG]http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx281/panthergodII/Superman/[URL=http://s764.photobucket.com/user/panthergodII/media/Superman/ 1971%20Jan%20Action%20396%20limitless%20dynamic%20
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Dont ever challenge me on Superman's proven power set again, you laughably ignorant Marvel fanboy.

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Originally posted by panthergod
So what?

Any character can suppress their speed as well.

Every character=Superman in level of control over speed levels according to you, eh idiot?

Prove that claim.


That's already been proven, conclusively.

You're just lying now.


Irrelevant.

Hulk has nothing whatsoever to do with this thread.

Any reference to Hulk as a way to ignore Superman's proven abilities is a concession that you dont have an argument.

Hulk's version of dynamic strength is NOT the only way to portray that ability.

Gladiator, Solo Series Wonder Man, Sentry, Plutonian, all have Dynamic stats to VARYING degrees idiot.

Hmmm. I wonder what else those characters have in common...?



.. his creator says he's as strong as he thinks he is and on panel his power is dependent upon his force of will.


... Except when they have.

.. like Doomsday.

Idiot.




We have him flat out displaying the abilities in multiple storylines.. including summer crossover dedicating to highlighting this ability, like OWAW.

Cry more idiot.

and one more thing:

[IMG]http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx281/panthergodII/Superman/[URL=http://s764.photobucket.com/user/panthergodII/media/Superman/ 1971%20Jan%20Action%20396%20limitless%20dynamic%20
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Dont ever challenge me on Superman's proven power set again, you laughably ignorant Marvel fanboy.
You idiot. When it's said that he's as strong as he believes he is, it means the clown can believe he's weak as hell and it happens because he subconsciously stops his body from using the stored energy as shown on panel. If he thinks he's at his FULL set in stone strength, then he's at that point you ridicules moron. That's why his strength fluxuate. YET he CANNOT will himself stronger than his full set in stone strength idiot. That's why he sundip to go past his full strength when it's NOT enough. NEVER challenge me again idiot.


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LMAO! Dude, give up. You lost, live with it.


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You idiot. When it's said that he's as strong as he believes he is, it means the clown can believe he's weak as hell and it happens because he subconsciously stops his body from using the stored energy as shown on panel. If he thinks he's at his FULL set in stone strength, then he's at that point you ridicules moron. That's why his strength fluxuate. YET he CANNOT will himself stronger than his full set in stone strength idiot. That's why he sundip to go past his full strength when it's NOT enough. NEVER challenge me again idiot.
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LMAO! Dude, give up. You lost, live with it.

Lost by what proof? Your word?


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Lost by what proof? Your word?
No. He lost by the FACT that Superman HAS to sundip to go above his set in stone strength like he had to do to move warworld, or how all-star Superman got 3 times stronger than his set in stone strength that got MEASURED by scientists or how when hulk was hitting superman in his chest and getting ready to overpower supermans set in stone strength and the outcome was in doubt or how Wonder Woman said that Damage was stronger than set in stone strength superman or how CM and Superman to this day STILL don't know whose stronger?????? Now back to Damage, a Hulk ripoff whose stronger than DD, Superman, CM and BA... Guess why?? Because ALL of their strength is.... Drum roll!!........ SET IN STONE!!


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You idiot. When it's said that he's as strong as he believes he is, it means the clown can believe he's weak as hell and it happens because he subconsciously stops his body from using the stored energy as shown on panel.

THAT IS DYNAMIC STRENGTH IDIOT.

laughing out loud

All you have is a concession now.

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If he thinks he's at his FULL set in stone strength, then he's at that point you ridicules moron. That's why his strength fluxuate.

His strength fluctuates? To a VAST degree? Based on his mind?

Concession accepted f*cktard.


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YET he CANNOT will himself stronger than his full set in stone strength idiot. That's why he sundip to go past his full strength when it's NOT enough. NEVER challenge me again idiot.

First off, you already conceded. this debate is over. Superman's stats fluctuate, by a factor of MILLIONS at minimum(standard Class 100 down to human level and back, and his Class 100 level is him suppressing at least Darkseid aka Skyfather class physical stats), due to his mind. That is vast dynamic strength in and of itself. PERIOD.

Second...

WRONG.

Superman's strength is not and has NEVER been 'set in stone' at any point barring being depowered.. since the Byrne years.

Never has been. :lol.

oh you dumbass.

Superman's power is CONSTANTLY in flux since he is CONSTANTLY absorbing more energy retard.

He gets more powerful as he gets older... CONTINUOUSLY, as shown in Kingdom Come, which was a potential future of the Post Crisis DCU. before that potential future got prevented and it became a Tributary in Hypertime in the Kingdom event . His Bodies ability to process Solar energy becomes more and more efficient as time goes by, dumbass. early post Crisis it took him hours if not days to go from being de energized to full power. Now it takes moments.

So.. You are WRONG. Objectively, irrefutably, hilariously stupidly WRONG, including BY YOUR OWN STANDARD.

Byrne era Superman was a planet mover even though he didnt realize it. ****ing teen age Clark Kent pre IC was the most powerful being on earth according to the Quintessence with power equivalent to a New God or Olympian God even if he hadn't even begun to access his innate power at the time and couldn't even fly as far as he knew.

Superman has MULTIPLE established components to his powerset that give him dynamic stats: psionic aspect/force of will per Byrne, Superhuman muscle-control, AND his increasing rate/efficiency of solar absorption and his energy reserves/storage. EACH of those aspects in and of themselves give him a form of dynamic power. Together? THERE IS NO HONEST DEBATE against the fact that Superman has dynamic strength.

Hey retard. Doomsday DID have Dynamic strength in DoS. Guess What? Superman started off way BELOW him in strength, DD's strength rose continuously due to a Hulk-like anger fueled dynamic strength factor over the course of hours, and Superman's dynamic factor going from near Death to punching DD to death in moments OUTPERFORMED Doomsday's dynamic factor in terms of rate of change within a FEW moments you enormous laughing stock.

We saw this AGAIN in Superman Doomed in nu 52. nu 52 DD broke WW's arms with a punch, was absorbing all power around him, was steadily increasing in power, including absorbing Superman's own power, specifically growing bigger and stronger as time went on, and Superman STILL tore him apart when he cut loose.

How many ways do the comics have to show Superman having MULTIPLE DIFFERENT forms of dynamic strength in multiple scenarios before an total and complete dunce will be able to comprehend simple comic book stories? laughing out loud

Just how much more stupid are you going to show yourself to be here?

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JBL is done a great job disproving Superman doesn’t have dynamic power thumb up

I honestly thought Superman fanboys would try and prove he has.


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THAT IS DYNAMIC STRENGTH IDIOT.

laughing out loud

All you have is a concession now.


His strength fluctuates? To a VAST degree? Based on his mind?

Concession accepted f*cktard.



First off, you already conceded. this debate is over. Superman's stats fluctuate, by a factor of MILLIONS at minimum(standard Class 100 down to human level and back, and his Class 100 level is him suppressing at least Darkseid aka Skyfather class physical stats), due to his mind. That is vast dynamic strength in and of itself. PERIOD.

Second...

WRONG.

Superman's strength is not and has NEVER been 'set in stone' at any point barring being depowered.. since the Byrne years.

Never has been. :lol.

oh you dumbass.

Superman's power is CONSTANTLY in flux since he is CONSTANTLY absorbing more energy retard.

He gets more powerful as he gets older... CONTINUOUSLY, as shown in Kingdom Come, which was a potential future of the Post Crisis DCU. before that potential future got prevented and it became a Tributary in Hypertime in the Kingdom event . His Bodies ability to process Solar energy becomes more and more efficient as time goes by, dumbass. early post Crisis it took him hours if not days to go from being de energized to full power. Now it takes moments.

So.. You are WRONG. Objectively, irrefutably, hilariously stupidly WRONG, including BY YOUR OWN STANDARD.

Byrne era Superman was a planet mover even though he didnt realize it. ****ing teen age Clark Kent pre IC was the most powerful being on earth according to the Quintessence with power equivalent to a New God or Olympian God even if he hadn't even begun to access his innate power at the time and couldn't even fly as far as he knew.

Superman has MULTIPLE established components to his powerset that give him dynamic stats: psionic aspect/force of will per Byrne, Superhuman muscle-control, AND his increasing rate/efficiency of solar absorption and his energy reserves/storage. EACH of those aspects in and of themselves give him a form of dynamic power. Together? THERE IS NOT DEBATE that Superma has dynamic strength.

Hey retard. Doomsday DID have Dynamic strength in DoS. Guess What? Superman started off way BELOW him in strength, DD's strength rose continuously due to a Hulk-like anger fueled dynamic strength factor over the course of hours, and Superman's dynamic factor going from near Death to punching DD to death in moments OUTPERFORMED Doomsday's dynamic factor in terms of rate of change within a FEW moments you enormous laughing stock.

We saw this AGAIN in Superman Doomed in nu 52. nu 52 DD broke WW's arms with a punch, was absorbing all power around him, was steadily increasing in power, including absorbing Superman's own power, specifically growing bigger and stronger as time went on, and Superman STILL tore him apart when he cut loose.

How many ways do the comics have to show Superman having MULTIPLE DIFFERENT forms of dynamic strength in multiple scenarios before an total and complete dunce will be able to comprehend simple comic book stories? laughing out loud

Just how much more stupid are you going to show yourself to be here?
There is no way you can be this stupid. When superman fought DD, he got no stronger, he just put everything he had left into that last punch and it was enough WHY??? Drum roll!!! .... Because like two WEARY boxers, their tanks were running out and it ended in a double death strike as a LAST resort you moron.


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Could someone please put up the scan where wonder woman told superman to his face that Damage was stronger than him letting the world know for the hundredth time they know how strong superman is and know when someone is stronger.


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There is no way you can be this stupid. When superman fought DD, he got no stronger, he just put everything he had left into that last punch and it was enough WHY??? Drum roll!!! .... Because like two WEARY boxers, their tanks were running out and it ended in a double death strike as a LAST resort you moron.


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Could someone please put up the scan where wonder woman told superman to his face that Damage was stronger than him letting the world know for the hundredth time they know how strong superman is and know when someone is stronger.



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There is no way you can be this stupid.


Well, we can SEE you're this stupid since your showing you're too stupid to comprehend points that were explained conclusively in the first page of this thread.


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When superman fought DD, he got no stronger,

Superman specifically states that his power levels surge when he cuts loose, and that he gets stronger when he stops mentally suppressing his power levels. We saw that with a more confident mindset ala Earth 2 Superman's in IC, that he would have been 'stronger than ever" after killing DD.

So you're lying again.

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he just put everything he had left into that last punch and it was enough WHY??? Drum roll!!! .... Because like two WEARY boxers, their tanks were running out and it ended in a double death strike as a LAST resort you moron.


.. Already refuted youre dunce version that cant comprehend context for that metaphor or continuity . Doomsday had dynamic increasing strength far above top tier level and was stronger than ever until the last few moments when Superman finally cut loose, Superman had been suppressing his power subconsciously for the whole fight until the end( due toi his established humanized self image, fear of losing control and going insane per Exile and Red Glass, and code against killing)

Learn how to read you incredibly stupid individual.

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And Thus it ends. There you have it... Superman, barman and Wonder Woman who ALL know how strong superman is ps.. Superman HIMSELF is there... So Bauman and Wonder Woman know just how strong superman is and know for a FACT that Damage is stronger. WW has fought a non-holding back superman, a non-holding back DD. Thank you for the laugh panthergod, it's been somewhat fun.


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Resize that irrelevant scan of characters that are in zero position to say how powerful Superman is relative to anyone else, not that it matter if anyone else is stronger than him in the least anyways, or remove it for the link. otherwise I will report that post for screwing up this page

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