"Darth Bandon, who had far surpassed Exar Kun in power, could not hold a candle to a teenage Mara Jade, let alone Darth Sidious, the most powerful Sith Lord in galactic history by both Force power and combative ability" - Leland Chee's Ultimate Legends Sourcebook
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Since Sidious is no longer supreme, I guess we have a lot of reason to take Kun's quotes placing him close to DE Sidious seriously again. That really means nothing.
I agree that the Sidious quotes where he's the greatest should only apply to characters that exist at the time, as opposed to the characters that retroactively existed at the time.
Otherwise it writes them into a corner and they can never surpass Sidious no matter what they do. Character destroys another galaxy? Sub Sidious level.
The issue is, no one has actually written a Sith above Sidious yet. So even if his claims were faulty (which the reasons in this thread are the most pathetic shit ever), who is actually written higher than Sidious? There's only one who comes close and he's not Exar Kunt.
And I hope there never is a sith introduced who is more powerful than Darth Sidious. I understand the star wars universe can expand quite greatly and do things which seem stupid at first but then become intrinsic parts of the lore. But the main story of star wars, in my opinion, shouldn't be insulted like that.
Thus, I have no problem with them writing themselves into that limitation, because I'd be glad to never see a non-god darksider more powerful than Sidious.
I'm not saying that I want more to be introduced, I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense for statements to apply retroactively to characters introduced after that statement.
Sheev should be more powerful based on what he's done, not because a statement was made 2 years before the character was created. Unless that statement can directly correlate in some way or another.
If a writer wants to create some shitty nonsense character more powerful, the avenue should be there. Darth Omnipotent exists for a story and destroys a different galaxy for example, before dying from choking on a piece of corn. As dumb as that sounds, the option should be open (though handled with more tact), and the statement shouldn't apply to him. Otherwise you get into even worse scaling arguments.
That being said, it is refreshing to see Sheev being the top Sith Puppy still. Other "universes" like to shit all over the prior lore in an effort to one up or just piss off everyone (A little black girl is now way smarter than Reed Richards and Dr Doom for example).
Hell, Sheev still continues to rack up feats and he died a few decades ago.
So you like the taste of Sheev's balls and his salty semen?
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Although it is a statement. It is also retarded. Therefore Lee is retarded. Or he did it for Sheev's balls.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Because Star Wars is about Luke, Anakin, Yoda and Palpatine? Even the EU. If some high ranking authority were to say openly that X>these characters. Then, they'd be more important than Lucas' characters.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Well, in the case of Sidious's accolades I think that their relevance doesn't end when new characters are added because the position of Sidious as the top is thematically relevant regardless of exactly which set of characters from past eras have been described. (Also what would be the point of such accolades if they get called into question as soon as someone publishes a book a few months later?)
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Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting.
--The Complete Visual Dictionary
When Yoda crosses sabers with the movie's arch-villain, he doesn't launch into a pinwheeling display of acrobatics, as he did against Count Dooku in Episode II. Instead, Yoda faces the dark side's fury, channeled by the most powerful Sith Lord in history.
--Insider #86: Yoda's Right Arm
Emperor Zaarin? The idea isn't as ludicrous as it sounds. Demetrius Zaarin gambled everything on an audacious coup d'état and nearly killed the most powerful Sith Lord the galaxy has ever known.
--Insider #66: Who's Who: Imperial Grand Admirals
And what of the Emperor? He was mighty in the Force, perhaps the mightiest being who has ever lived.
--Galaxy Guide 5: Return of the Jedi
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This is the specific version of why writers keep sucking up Lucas' characters' balls.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Apr 1st, 2018 01:01 PM
