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Trust me kid, I don't need to brag. I lifted more than most kids dabbling with gear before my first course. Team America have more people to draw from than the whole of Europe and the worlds strongest man is still a Brit. wink


Good for the britssmile Those folks sacrifice alot to achieve those goals, if the Brits win it over the USA then I say good on them.

One thing that is difficult for many people to grasp is the sacrifice athletes make to achieve their goals. In the USA we don't support our amateur athletes as well as other countries.

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Good for the britssmile Those folks sacrifice alot to achieve those goals, if the Brits win it over the USA then I say good on them.

One thing that is difficult for many people to grasp is the sacrifice athletes make to achieve their goals. In the USA we don't support our amateur athletes as well as other countries.
You have scholarships to universities for them, something most countries don't do.


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You have scholarships to universities for them, something most countries don't do.


You and I both know scholarships are for academics and do not help you perform in athletics unless you mean, of course, it eases financial responsibilities so they stress less.

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You and I both know scholarships are for academics and do not help you perform in athletics unless you mean, of course, it eases financial responsibilities so they stress less.
Another example of "Academic Integrity" falling by the wayside in the US is just how some of the academic scholarships are attained. wink


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Who cares! There are far better things to worry about then sports, and which country as more medals.

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Well, actually population should have exactly that effect.

I'll grant you the British Isles isn't the best choice because we have proven time and time again we are a bit special and even though we are only one and a half states in population, if you scale us up to your size nobody else in the world would win anything. As for MMA, the rules favour wrestlers and tbh, the modern UFC is pretty much just a way for poor strikers and college wrestlers to pretend they are martial artists.

Pride rules were much fairer.

I say Khmer boxing rules all round for striking + football kicks to the head. Now that's real MMA.

But, it doesn't.

While I preferred most of Pride rules too, UFC rules don't favor wrestlers over anyone. When you can wall walk and guard stall for a ref reset, there's definitely added work for the wrestler. Pride rules actually helped the wrestler by preventing this. The poor strikers and college wrestlers comment is just bias on your part. Olympic wrestlers and world class strikers abound. They, like everyone else, require adjustments to their game once in MMA environments, so they remove "pure" elements that work better in a single-art environment. That's why it looks different.

Khmer boxing isn't MMA any more than Muay Thai or kickboxing are. You're not going to tune in to GLORY if you want to see ankle picks.
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Who cares! There are far better things to worry about then sports, and which country as more medals.

I agree. And there's been great athletes from all over the world. I just have too much time on my hands tbh.

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But, it doesn't.

While I preferred most of Pride rules too, UFC rules don't favor wrestlers over anyone. When you can wall walk and guard stall for a ref reset, there's definitely added work for the wrestler. Pride rules actually helped the wrestler by preventing this. The poor strikers and college wrestlers comment is just bias on your part. Olympic wrestlers and world class strikers abound. They, like everyone else, require adjustments to their game once in MMA environments, so they remove "pure" elements that work better in a single-art environment. That's why it looks different.

Khmer boxing isn't MMA any more than Muay Thai or kickboxing are. You're not going to tune in to GLORY if you want to see ankle picks.

I agree. And there's been great athletes from all over the world. I just have too much time on my hands tbh.
World class strikers do not abound, seriously Floyd Mayweather is a world-class striker and I honestly believe he carried McGregor. The lack of downward elbows in the clinch and actually anywhere favours wrestlers as you cannot drop elbows on the top of the head, you can in Khmer boxing.

Hey we had these chats a lot once and in the old days you could see through my motives better.


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World class strikers do not abound, seriously Floyd Mayweather is a world-class striker and I honestly believe he carried McGregor. The lack of downward elbows in the clinch and actually anywhere favours wrestlers as you cannot drop elbows on the top of the head, you can in Khmer boxing.

Hey we had these chats a lot once and in the old days you could see through my motives better.

Nah, there's plenty. Wonderboy, Joanna, Valentina, Overeem, etc. Plenty of people of people could outstrike Mayweather in UFC though. There's more to striking than boxing. Heck, Mayweather would get mauled under the same Thai-style rules you're mentioning. We've already seen the pure boxing vs Muay Thai/kickboxing style-against-style days. Almost never ended well for the boxer. Punches+kicks/knees/elbows > punches only. UFC 223 just reinforced that too with Kyle/Kabit and Moicano/Katar.


Ah. I admit you fooled me, although I had a hunch. Nice to see you lmao.

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Nah, there's plenty. Wonderboy, Joanna, Valentina, Overeem, etc. Plenty of people of people could outstrike Mayweather in UFC though. There's more to striking than boxing. Heck, Mayweather would get mauled under the same Thai-style rules you're mentioning.


Ah. I admit you fooled me, although I had a hunch. Nice to see you lmao.
Nice to see you too smile


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Something NO ONE has ever said about Pootybutt.

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