Yes I would. First line of business would be to eliminate lazy and unproductive employees like you. Especially ones that do not know what a meta-analysis is.
I'd put you on a PIP (Performance Improvement Plan) that would be achievable by any normal person but you'd figure out a way to bungle that, too, in 3 months, no doubt.
Putinbot1 is lying to make himself seem more important than he actually is and ddm is having fun calling him on it.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Trust me you wouldn't in my field I am very respected and rightly so. I have people to deal with PIP's etc. Seriously if you are as high up as you say, why are you doing the job of HR?
Okay, I'll trust you. But you just admitted on this forum, which could be used against you for "grounds for termination" that you don't do work.
You should have direct employees. You are the HRM for your direct reports. If HR is writing your PIPs, you're either too incompetent to do your job properly so they just do it (I've seen this happen, before, and it is usually the sign that you're getting a case built against you to terminate you), or you work in an organization where a managerial title means nothing. Based on the fact that there are no VPs or C-Levels between you and the owner, it points to it being a very small organization.
But we shouldn't dig deeper. It's not okay and I think we are crossing a line that I don't want to cross. Apologies for taking it this far. It no longer feels amusing to me.
I certainly wouldn't write PIP's and no one should if they are in charge, they should be dealing with the customer and deciding on policy. We will have to disagree on that, I think only a small company would have anyone in charge dealing with day to day employee tasks. That's my opinion. I suspect we are in very different situations, I feel reading yours mine is more privileged, well I know it is, I'm not in IT. I admit I trade off my Britishness to amuse Fly and yes, this is starting to leave a nasty taste in my mouth too. Have a good day.
Let's go away from job-specific things and then just focus on Work Culture and best practices.
I have employed many British Nationals before working managing government contracts. I can even take it a step further and tell you that many of the American Corporate policies actually come from the tried and true methods that the British already figured out. Americans shit on the British but the British are a bit ahead of the Americans when it comes to best practices and corporate policies.
Generally, how it is structured, the Direct Manager handles all HRM activities with their employees. Often, HR will be involved in helping guide a DM on how to deliver a PIP but it is up to the DM to deliver the PIP, not HR. HR processes paperwork from the DMs. They establish the framework within which managers operate. Hiring, terminations, benefits, recruitment, annual and mid-year reviews. All fall within HR. However, the arms of HR are the DMs. They do the reviews, they do the PIPs, they complete the terminations. Not HR.
You may get your PIP form from HR but HR never delivers it.
All of this goes out the window at very small organizations.
Has your experience over the decades differed from this? I am almost positive this HRM structure comes from an amalgamation of British and American practices over the last 30 or so years.
It actually depends on the company, to be honest, my job is much more about dealing with the customer and actual delivery. HR is really in most UK companies something to support middle managers who do all the performance related stuff. As I say the last 5 years I have worked for Royalty and dealt with people as diverse as banking families, BAE systems and Aramco. Tbh, I do not get involved in HR and employee management at all anymore, it's not my job.
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This is what Putinbot1 thinks makes him hot shit? Working as a human resources person?
I serve as a human resources exec myself for a volunteer organization. It literally takes no skill. Anyone who has two brain cells to rub together can do it.
That plus I'm a full time student majoring in biochem & comp sci. Give me a ****ing break you dweebs. You have little to no market value.
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Can you read? I have nothing to do with HR, except they work for me and I have never and would never work in HR. Not that I have anything against anyone who does.
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I'm not sure if this is why but a lot of Americans have an irrational disliking of standardized testing despite all the literature on its accuracy (with a few exceptions).
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I don't think charter/private schools are common enough to explain the alleged gap.
Funnily enough, it seems likely that America has the highest population of extremely talented people (maybe behind China/India due to sheer population), probably because of skilled immigration.
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Not an argument, kiddo. Try again.
I went to a private high-school known for pumping out multiple IVY league matriculates, Merit scholars, etc each year. Not sure what you mean by private/charters being an issue.
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