The US Regime, it's lies, hypocrisy and propaganda.
Ten commandments of propaganda
1 We do not want war.
2 The opposite party alone is guilty of war.
3 The enemy is the face of the devil.
4 We defend a noble cause, not our own interest.
5 The enemy systematically commits cruelties; our mishaps are involuntary.
6 The enemy uses forbidden weapons.
7 We suffer small losses, those of the enemy are enormous.
8 Artists and intellectuals back our cause.
9 Our cause is sacred. "The ages-old 'God Bless America' is playing once more."
10 All who doubt our propaganda, are traitors and conspiracy theorists.
Worked in Vietnam, Irak and Libya.
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No, it's been confirmed this morning. They found some of the nerve gas molecules and the larger ones can function a "marker" and it serves as a signature for the US Military. The nerve gas used is a solution of multiple, not just a single attack vector: this is why it is so deadly, effective, and prohibited in the Geneva Protocol. So some of the molecules in it can be manufactured in such a way that a unique "signature" can be quickly identified. Russian nerve gas has something similar and it is quite easy to tell the two apart even for the some exact 'concoction.'
Likely, there is a justification from the Trump administration on this and it will be spun to somehow make it not so obvious...but I cannot see a way out of this.
So there's go that narrative. Should be closed and people (which includes me), need to admit we were wrong about the WMDs in Iraq. Turns out there were and there were plenty. Tons and tons of them.
It's not as though my post was unfounded in actual science. The idea of "signatory molecules" comes from GMO DNA sequences that are signatures from large corporations such as Monsanto so they can tell if their crops have been stolen or bred with other crops (this has won Monsanto cases and is the subject of a documentary):
Fair enough, I did not know that. I was in Berlin in Oct, at the Radisson at Alexanderplatz by the TV tower for the festival of light. Love Germany, about my favourite place to be honest.
And the fact that many people did not come forward to admit they were wrong about the WMDs, including many news organizations and politicians, and the systematic suppression of these facts, should disturb you.
This is one of those circumstances where, even in the face of absurd amounts of evidence, you still try to side-step, deny, or play words games. That's lame as f*ck and it is quite telling of the kind of person you are (a lame, partisan, pile).
This is why almost everything you post cannot be taken seriously as almost none of it comes with an honest impetus.
It's quite simple:
Were there WMDs in Iraq that Saddam Hussein's regime was sitting on, stockpiling, and refusing to give up (requirements from losing the Golf War)?
Yes. So very many it is absurd. Was this the exact set of circumstances which led the US to take action against Hussein's regime for violating Roslution 1441? Yes. He was uncooperative with inspectors. He was supposed to 1. Cease all production. 2. Give up all WMDs and WMD precursors.
He didn't cooperate with #2. Hence the often stated "Hussein is hiding WMDs." And he was.
It is your job, if you want to be honest, to correct every person who says we never found the WMDs in Iraq. We did. There were literally tons and tons of them.
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Well done double d, you regurgitated what you said last while failing to acknowledge the context I added, adding a bit of ad hominem to avoid the argument.
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
To slander the other side? That's down the rabbit hole conspiracy theory stuff.. We'd need to believe the press is basically a propaganda machine for the Feds. And that WOULD be scary..
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
The WMD's that we went to war for in Iraq were supposed to be nukes that Saddam had been building or built. Hence the whole 'yellow cake uranium' start and what lead us eventually to war. If the target WMDs had been found, Bush would have been on camera doing back flips and rightfully so.
No, you simply stated just some of the things I already stated and then tried to marginalize the significance.
And no you just avoided addressing anything I said with you psuedo-tantrum, above.
This is not a conspiracy. The narrative that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was hammered and beaten into everyone's minds so much that it's something they just want to quietly ignore. Also, the anti-Bush bias is strong.
Some of these organizations quietly rescinded their positions, such as NYT. An online article here, a brief 5-10 second spot in the mews recap, etc.
Hell, we have documentaries about how the Media was used as a weapon to get us into Iraq when we "knew" there were no WMDs to not find when there were actually stockpiled WMDs that Saddam wouldn't let us in to find and dispose of.
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