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GalacticStorm
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Round 1 Supergirl 10/10
Round 2 Scarlet Witch 9/10


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Originally posted by Baziemarc123
To say we can scale Superman to Lobo in terms of raw strength is inaccurate to me, and here's why

Superman beats Lobo in a fight. But what we see in those fights are Superman knocking him out. That means Supermans striking power is more than Lobos durability. Plain and simple
- Kals punching power >> Lobos durability

It does NOT mean that Superman has strength equal or greater than Lobos, because a showing of strength against strength was NOT displayed in their fights.
--> If they literally locked up and was trying to push the other, and Superman is seen overpowering Lobos strength with his own strength, THEN you can scale it because there is literal on panel evidence of Supermans strength exceeding Lobos strength. Thats proper scaling, not the other way around


Right, because there is no other way to find strength comparison.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/167...sguy_3.jpg.html

Guy Gardner flat out says Eradicator hit him about as hard as Superman and harder than Lobo.
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Also in jla issues, Superman tops out at planetary feats/strength


You're wrong. Once again.


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Originally posted by Baziemarc123
LOL several? Hahaha I'd love to see this, and it was never confirmed he absorbed the hypernova. all he did was push the gears which is a known unquantifable feat

Here you go. Surtur goes supernova and collapses into a black hole, Superman tanks that.

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Survives a red sun going supernova.


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Tanks a blast equal to 50 supernovae.

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Anything else you wanted to see?


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Old Post May 22nd, 2018 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by Baziemarc123
absorbing the bomb in JLA #44 is not a durability feat. It's absorption

The bomb didn't explode


Yes, it did. Last panel.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/160...la041c.jpg.html

Wrong again boy.
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I've seen Superman get KOed from an exploding sun (not supernova) while millions of miles away in Action Comics #867


And I've seen Thor getting koed by a ship mast. Your point?
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and He never tanked the red sun supernova either. if your talking about action comics #842, he was hit by the electromagnetic shockwave of the entropy bomb


He was hit by the blast which was equivalent to 50 Supernova. The Shockwave came later.


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Do you even read your scans? Alan scott saved them just like he stated in the previous panel, we don't see Superman tank anything.

Its late here though, I'll address it tomorrow

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Do you even read your scans? Alan scott saved them just like he stated in the previous panel, we don't see Superman tank anything.


Superman didn't need saving. And Alan was saving the lesser durable characters as stated by Atom.
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Its late here though, I'll address it tomorrow


I eagerly await your lies.


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Superman didn't need saving. And Alan was saving the lesser durable characters as stated by Atom.

I eagerly await your lies.


He said Superman and Diana "might" be able to survive it

How do we know Superman actually tanked it besides a statement


Wait til tomorrow, this'll be funny. You love misinterpreting context huh

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and no I'm not wrong, once again. Superman doesn't ever go above planetary in JLA issues, but you can show your proof he does while misinterpreting the context once again

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He said Superman and Diana "might" be able to survive it

How do we know Superman actually tanked it besides a statement


Because Alan wasn't shown protecting them. Only the persons in the bubble he created.
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Wait til tomorrow, this'll be funny. You love misinterpreting context huh


Right, Who said Superman just manipulated gears of Mageddon?


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and no I'm not wrong, once again. Superman doesn't ever go above planetary in JLA issues, but you can show your proof he does while misinterpreting the context once again

He absorbed the mageddon hypernova in JLA.

How about that?


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I knew your scans was out of context again.

Do you just like purposely being wrong?


your scans doesnt show or even claiming Superman survived the red supernova


Superman said "By the time I got there, it was already too late"

Superman ARRIVED after the supernova


https://postimg.cc/image/4ixflwwbf/fbdf4126/

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The bomnb actually didn't explode. read the next scan

"Doomsday is cancelled until further notice. The Mageddon warhead has been disarmed"


https://postimg.cc/image/ra6i8ehdn/2e45f3b5/

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Right, because there is no other way to find strength comparison.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/167...sguy_3.jpg.html

Guy Gardner flat out says Eradicator hit him about as hard as Superman and harder than Lobo.

You're wrong. Once again.


Punching power = / = lifting or pulling strength. There's no correlation between them

and 2 This is long before Lobos feat of pulling the stellar mass, which as I said, we need to find out if Lobo has continous growth in strength, or, if hes been the same all the way through

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I knew your scans was out of context again.

Do you just like purposely being wrong?


your scans doesnt show or even claiming Superman survived the red supernova


Superman said "By the time I got there, it was already too late"

Superman ARRIVED after the supernova


https://postimg.cc/image/4ixflwwbf/fbdf4126/

To save the planets. How was he able to witness the supernova otherwise?

He searched for all the planets too immediately.


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The bomnb actually didn't explode. read the next scan

"Doomsday is cancelled until further notice. The Mageddon warhead has been disarmed"


https://postimg.cc/image/ra6i8ehdn/2e45f3b5/

Even JLA secret files 3 states that Superman absorbed all the power from Mageddon.

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And we saw explosion on panel. So wrong again.


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Punching power = / = lifting or pulling strength. There's no correlation between them


Right, where did you get this from? Proof of this?
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and 2 This is long before Lobos feat of pulling the stellar mass, which as I said, we need to find out if Lobo has continous growth in strength, or, if hes been the same all the way through


Lobo has never been shown amped in strength.

You will do anything to lowball Superman, wouldn't you?

I'm still waiting for those Thor feats BTW.


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Even JLA secret files 3 states that Superman absorbed all the power from Mageddon.

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And we saw explosion on panel. So wrong again.


are you blatantly ignoring the panel DIRECTLY from the comic and relying on inaccurate databook statements?

It literally says "The Maggedon warhead has been disarmed"

Do you know what disarmed means?

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Right, where did you get this from? Proof of this?

Lobo has never been shown amped in strength.

You will do anything to lowball Superman, wouldn't you?

I'm still waiting for those Thor feats BTW.


I mean... do you think body builders can punch harder than Mike Tyson?

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Originally posted by Baziemarc123
give me a sec. ill provide links that'll break it down scientifcally


Still waiting on this.


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