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Originally posted by carthage
Luke

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Originally posted by The Merchant
Ben and Yoda were confident Luke would kill Vader tbh and the only doubt they had was Luke having mercy for Vader. Every time Luke mentioned Vader being conflicted, Vader took a swing at Luke who let his guard down. He nearly chopped Lukes head off after Luke said Vader was conflicted and the first time where Luke kicked Vader down the stairs and said he won't figjt Vader. Vader swung at Luke who had his saber deactivated.

Now, not denying Vader was conflicted. But, nothing states his performance was affected. Legends sources state both Luke and Vader are equal.in the Force at this point and in sabers, with Luke having the edge in speed and skill.

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Originally posted by The Merchant
Ben and Yoda were confident Luke would kill Vader tbh

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Originally posted by The Merchant
Ben and Yoda were confident Luke would kill Vader tbh and the only doubt they had was Luke having mercy for Vader. Every time Luke mentioned Vader being conflicted, Vader took a swing at Luke who let his guard down. He nearly chopped Lukes head off after Luke said Vader was conflicted and the first time where Luke kicked Vader down the stairs and said he won't figjt Vader. Vader swung at Luke who had his saber deactivated.

Now, not denying Vader was conflicted. But, nothing states his performance was affected. Legends sources state both Luke and Vader are equal.in the Force at this point and in sabers, with Luke having the edge in speed and skill.

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Originally posted by Forschbewithu
In my opinion, canon Vader > canon Dooku in sabers and all out. Anakin had an advantage over Dooku in rots due to not only him being a lvl 9 against a high lvl 8 on the Gillard scale, but stylistically it favored Anakin as well, which was due to the kinetic energy generated by form V.

As Vader in the suit, you are now doubling his stylistic advantage over Dooku due to the enhanced power of Vader's mechanical limbs. In-universe quotes from Vader in Lord's of the Sith will tell you that he's only grown more powerful since doning the suit:

"He stared at his reflection a long time. His injuries had deformed his body, left it broken, but they'd perfected his spirit, strengthening his connection to the Force. Suffering had birthed insight."



AND his suit doesn't hinder him in any way:


"When man and machine were one, he no longer felt the absence of his legs or arms, the pain of his flesh, but the hate remained, and the rage still burned. Those, he never relinquished, and he never felt more connected to the Force than when his fury burned."

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Originally posted by MythLord
Oh Ziggy.