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NemeBro
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He is right here though.

He never made an attempt at hiding that the immigrants were illegal (there is not necessarily any difference between illegal immigrants and immigrants because the former is a specification of the latter, asking for specification is fine but to act like he's wrong for using the latter when talking about the former is objectively incorrect). He acknowledged outright that this was the case, before asking Surtur what it mattered.

Surtur then didn't address the comment at all, lambasted "leftists" for calling the illegal immigrants "immigrants" (which as said is objectively correct), went on a tangent about people designating a black person's race, continued condescending to him.

EmperorDMB, this is the guy you cucked so hard for when he got a temp ban? Someone who actively trolls and avoids discussion in favor of mockery? thumb up

Oh, and just so we're clear here, PVS is also completely toxic to legitimate discussion and is a total assclown. thumb down


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Originally posted by NemeBro
He is right here though.

He never made an attempt at hiding that the immigrants were illegal (there is not necessarily any difference between illegal immigrants and immigrants because the former is a specification of the latter, asking for specification is fine but to act like he's wrong for using the latter when talking about the former is objectively incorrect). He acknowledged outright that this was the case, before asking Surtur what it mattered.

Surtur then didn't address the comment at all, lambasted "leftists" for calling the illegal immigrants "immigrants" (which as said is objectively correct), went on a tangent about people designating a black person's race, continued condescending to him.

EmperorDMB, this is the guy you cucked so hard for when he got a temp ban? Someone who actively trolls and avoids discussion in favor of mockery? thumb up

Oh, and just so we're clear here, PVS is also completely toxic to legitimate discussion and is a total assclown. thumb down


Lol, I said more than once that it matters because the solutions are different for illegals vs legals.

You can disagree sure, but don't act like I never addressed why I think it matters. Makes you seem like a big 'ol piece of dog shit.


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Originally posted by snowdragon
In regards to this particular post:

Fox Side of Story



Funny how the article you posted tried to spin the narrative around a helpless farmhand that has never done anything wrong.

As far as going in there without a warrant, I can't speak to the legality of that.

I also think its important when speaking about immigrants and the law to identify said parties as either legal or illegal immigrants........


It's funny that he did that, but I think if people here are honest...it's 100% not surprising.


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So I read the whole thread. Surt really shit the bed in here and for what, the use of the word "immigrant". What a joke.

Anyhow, in related thread news: How the Border Patrol Faked Statistics Showing a 73 Percent Rise in Assaults Against Agents

Last November, reports that a pair of U.S. Border Patrol agents had been attacked with rocks at a desolate spot in West Texas made news around the country. The agents were found injured and unconscious at the bottom of a culvert off Interstate 10. Agent Rogelio Martinez soon died from his injuries. Early reports in right-wing media outlets such as Breitbart suggested that the perpetrators were undocumented immigrants, and President Donald Trump quickly embraced the narrative to bolster his campaign for a border wall.

To people familiar with the harsh terrain and the habits of undocumented border crossers, however, the news made little sense. Why would immigrants seeking entry to the U.S. hang out in the middle of nowhere, miles from the border, waiting to randomly attack law enforcement officers?

It was four months before the FBI concluded its investigation and determined that the most likely cause of Martinez’s death was an accidental fall. Meanwhile, media outlets across the political spectrum repeated statistics showing a sharp upward trend in the number of assaults against Border Patrol agents even as the number of undocumented immigrants apprehended while crossing the southern border has dropped.
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Originally posted by Robtard
So I read the whole thread. Surt really shit the bed in here and for what, the use of the word "immigrant". What a joke.


Lol, you're the joke. Whatever narrative you need to spin here is fine. But the bottom line is I gave reasons why I felt there should be a distinction, multiple times.

I have yet to see anyone refute it. I have yet to see anyone say the solution for illegals and legal immigrants being held for longer than needed should be exactly the same.


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Originally posted by Surtur
Lol, you're the joke. Whatever narrative you need to spin here is fine. But the bottom line is I gave reasons why I felt there should be a distinction, multiple times.

I have yet to see anyone refute it. I have yet to see anyone say the solution for illegals and legal immigrants being held for longer than needed should be exactly the same.



A "no you!", how clever. Fact: You flipped out and derailed the thread over the use of the word "immigrant", which btw Rocky used correctly in context here, these are facts and will not be argued further.


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A "no you!", how clever. Fact: You flipped out and derailed the thread over the use of the word "immigrant", which btw Rocky used correctly in context here, these are facts and will not be argued further.


Epic fail. Try again.


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Originally posted by NemeBro

Oh, and just so we're clear here, PVS is also completely toxic to legitimate discussion and is a total assclown. thumb down


oh my, looks like someone's got a chimp on their shoulder.


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A shoulder chimp?


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oops what a funny accidental typo, which was totally accidental.


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Originally posted by Surtur
Lol, I said more than once that it matters because the solutions are different for illegals vs legals.

No, whether it's a legally immigrated mass murderer, or an illegally immigrated newspaper boy, the point is the same: ICE isn't following the court's decision. If you want to move the conversation to some tangent, I'm not obligated to provide you the info you need for that tangent.

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I'd say that the topic was successfully derailed, you would have been better served just ignoring him


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I'd say that the topic was successfully derailed, you would have been better served just ignoring him

Yeah. Hindsight's a *****

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Originally posted by Robtard
So I read the whole thread. Surt really shit the bed in here and for what, the use of the word "immigrant". What a joke.

Anyhow, in related thread news: How the Border Patrol Faked Statistics Showing a 73 Percent Rise in Assaults Against Agents

Last November, reports that a pair of U.S. Border Patrol agents had been attacked with rocks at a desolate spot in West Texas made news around the country. The agents were found injured and unconscious at the bottom of a culvert off Interstate 10. Agent Rogelio Martinez soon died from his injuries. Early reports in right-wing media outlets such as Breitbart suggested that the perpetrators were undocumented immigrants, and President Donald Trump quickly embraced the narrative to bolster his campaign for a border wall.

To people familiar with the harsh terrain and the habits of undocumented border crossers, however, the news made little sense. Why would immigrants seeking entry to the U.S. hang out in the middle of nowhere, miles from the border, waiting to randomly attack law enforcement officers?

It was four months before the FBI concluded its investigation and determined that the most likely cause of Martinez’s death was an accidental fall. Meanwhile, media outlets across the political spectrum repeated statistics showing a sharp upward trend in the number of assaults against Border Patrol agents even as the number of undocumented immigrants apprehended while crossing the southern border has dropped.
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Alarming if true.

Warrants it's own thread, I'll avoid engaging surt this time.

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Could just use this one, I don't care if you don't. Surt will be Surt, it is known.

This part: "To people familiar with the harsh terrain and the habits of undocumented border crossers, however, the news made little sense. Why would immigrants seeking entry to the U.S. hang out in the middle of nowhere, miles from the border, waiting to randomly attack law enforcement officers?"

So true, if they're trying to illegally cross and that's their goal, they're not hanging around just waiting for an opportunity to attack law enforcement.


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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
No, whether it's a legally immigrated mass murderer, or an illegally immigrated newspaper boy, the point is the same: ICE isn't following the court's decision. If you want to move the conversation to some tangent, I'm not obligated to provide you the info you need for that tangent.


The point is the same, the solution to what ICE needs to do is different. Your topic is literally "what is up with ICE".

There is no "moving" the conversation. Period. It's asinine to suggest it's somehow off topic to discuss solutions.


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