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Asajj Ventress vs. Kit Fisto
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MythLord
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Asajj wins.


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Darth Thor
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The quote isnt too surprising given Fisto was on the Jedi Council when the Jedi were at the height of their power.

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I don’t see anything that indicates Ventress’ victory in The Cestus Deception was luck, and not a genuine victory. They were at least fighting fairly evenly before her kick, but she scored a lot of hits on him without being struck once.

Granted they both have a lot of time afterwards before their prime, but she seems to improve more than he does, as far as we’ve seen. So Ventress, imho.


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Darth Thor
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In Legends yeah Ventress is better.

In Canon its harder to say. They both performed really well against Grievous. Aside from that, Ventress was =/> Luminara, but Kenobi seemed to always take it easy on her.

However Fisto is accolades as one of the better Council Members. One of the B Team and all.

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equal in legends tbf

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Darth Thor
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I mean Ventress did soundly beat him in Cestus Deception.

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I'd love to see that list lol. I mean the Jedi Order is some 20,000 years old. Being in the top 20 Jedi of all time means you are on average a once is 1000 years kind of fighter. More PT hype.


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In canon, Fisto's skills were touted as "unparalleled" by Windu.


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In the same issue, Mace also stated that Kit's skills with a lightsaber were "unrivaled":
https://i.imgur.com/2TgMv7L.jpg


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tbf fisto was injured vs ventress

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Given the increasing recognition towards the whole "surprise attack" and "mental confounding" aspects of Palpatine's fight with the Jedi Masters, Kit Fisto lasting as long as he did is a pretty good feat.

Nevertheless, Ventress takes this, especially in Legends.

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Fisto wins more times than not.

People have this weird thinking that when X defeats Y without some ridiculous circumstances it's suddenly X >>>> Y. Fights are random, one random move, one random placement means someone inferior can defeat his superior. You have Maul defeating Qui-Gon in 95% of situations, Maul being obviously superior by every possible account, but Qui-Gon can win these 5 out of 100 fights.

This is how I see Fisto vs. Ventress. Besides their fight, which was by the way also random, Fisto is superior in accolades, historic placement, feats, Force power, speed.


Agreed and you forgot that Fisto was injured in their fight.

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Darth Thor
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Originally posted by SunRazer
Given the increasing recognition towards the whole "surprise attack" and "mental confounding" aspects of Palpatine's fight with the Jedi Masters, Kit Fisto lasting as long as he did is a pretty good



Yeah To be fair Fisto didnt exactly get blitzed.

Just beaten very quickly.

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if ventress can defeat both ahsoka and llumanati, then she can beat kit fisto


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Writers show power levels via fights. Barring the use of circumstances, a fight issued to show the capabilities of the fighters. Fisto's accolades(none of which iventress is eligible for as a darksider) are pointless if Ventress is shown to be better directly in combat.

Furthermore, as of season 3, we see ventress showing superiority to TCW Kenobi who was clowning her as of the tcw novel. Kenobi seems to have surpassed her during her self imposed exile, but that kind of growth would suggest Ventress was vastly pre prime when she faced fisto. This is upported by her being like ten years younger. As of Dark Desciple, the notion of her being sub fisto is nonsense.

Another example of how quickly she grows can be seen with her ability to match Oppress in season 4(oppress's upperhand is explicitly linked to unfavorable circumstances with them being at a "stalemate" otherwise.) This is right before Oppress defeats Koon who, aside from outperforming Fisto vs a superior version of ventress (under identical circumstances), was able to fight evenly with Ventress post cestus deception.

Aside from beating fisto, Ventress was younger and showcased a far faster growth rate. It stands to reason that as of their primes, Ventress would be superior.

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youtube.com/watch?v=iLvD5_IY30s

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Bump.

This would be a good fight.


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