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I just want to qualify that desire is good it affects those without however desire isn't as good as fear when someone already has abundance or is afraid to lose something.

Hate requires neither desire or fear so there is that.


To have hate, once must first have fear


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Though I think arrogance is a necessary intermediary step between the two.


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What makes someone evil? I don't get it.


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To have hate, once must first have fear


Oh yeah, so when someone HATES tuna sandwiches it's because they are afraid of them?

If someone hates turtles, they are afraid of them etc wink

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Who really knows, as evil acts can vary depending on the viewpoint. But I think we can say that most people would consider someone like Hitler to be an "evil person", everything Hitler did in regards to achieving power, starting WWII, the holocaust etc was driven by fear.


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Oh yeah, so when someone HATES tuna sandwiches it's because they are afraid of them?

If someone hates turtles, they are afraid of them etc wink


No one really hates something like tuna sandwiches and turtles in that sense of hate.


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Hey don't trivialize my feelings about tuna.


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No one really hates something like tuna sandwiches and turtles in that sense of hate.


I can be afraid of sharks and in turn hate them.

I can hate someone that is black but absolutely not be afraid of them.

I can hate someone for having something I desire....but in no way be afraid of them.

Fear can cause hate but you can simply hate something because its different then you or a belief system or whatever the case without fear.

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You're welcome to disagree. But imo, fear is the root.

eg Just look at the recent studies done on what attracted Trump's largest demographic (White males) to vote for him, it was an [unfounded] fear of losing their identity.


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I can be afraid of sharks and in turn hate them.

I can hate someone that is black but absolutely not be afraid of them.

I can hate someone for having something I desire....but in no way be afraid of them.

Fear can cause hate but you can simply hate something because its different then you or a belief system or whatever the case without fear.


Right, which is why I think it is desire. Humans...we...I don't know how to describe it. But we have "desire" turned up to 11 it and permeates almost every aspect of our behavior.

I also think this is part of why some Buddhists seek to eliminate desire or the desires that are seen as operating in opposition to obtaining nirvana.

I am not Buddhist nor do I know enough about it to properly represent some of the beliefs (there are many flavors of Buddhism, as well).

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You're welcome to disagree. But imo, fear is the root.

eg Just look at the recent studies done on what attracted Trump's largest demographic (White males) to vote for him, it was an [unfounded] fear of losing their identity.


I don't think you're wrong. None of us are wrong. I've read lengthy descriptions about fear being the root of all negatives in a person's and people's lives.

And I am somewhat plagiarizing the "desire" concept from Buddhism, too.


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I don't think you're wrong. None of us are wrong. I've read lengthy descriptions about fear being the root of all negatives in a person's and people's lives.

And I am somewhat plagiarizing the "desire" concept from Buddhism, too.


Fear and desire are gateway emotions that can lead to other actions.

Hate can be totally irrational and not based on anything predictable.

I don't think any 1 specific emotion can be the basis of the root of all evil. Generally when terrible shit happens its multiple negative emotions that drive the actions.

Good chat.

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The root of all evil is evil itself. However, the Quadrilogy of Hatred, Rage, Fear, and Desire form the basis of what all humanity considers acts of evil.

There are other things that can lead to acts of evil of course, such as Madness (Mania for example). Sadness and Melancholy are another ones in much more rare circumstances. Sadism, Amoral nature or lack of empathy. And of course, coersion.


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To answer this question, we need to define evil.


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To answer this question, we need to define evil.



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It's difficult for some to comprehend something that otherworldly and all encompassing.


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They say money, but money is just a tool. There are plenty of good people with means.


I say, it's lawyers. mad


Everything... I mean EVERYTHING ****ed up comes from lawyers.

One common way: Lawyer sues a school, establishment overreacts to protect themselves, general public suffers.

Another common way: Lawyer determines how far you can bend a law. Say, by shipping POW's overseas to "water board", because water boarding isn't torture.


Basically, it's an arms race between Slippin' Jimmies, administrators, and the administrators lawyers. And we all get caught in the middle.

Free will.


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Death terror, ie, the quest for power to (sometimes consciously, usually otherwise) compensate for mortality.


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