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Galan007
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Haxx items vs. Heat-Vision...

Superman individually blasts the following items with his most powerful burst of HV for a maximum of 1 minute. What happens to them..?

-Mjolnir
-Jarnbjorn
-Wolverine's claws/skeleton
-Cap's shield
-Surfer's Board
-Galactus' Helm/armor
-Dianna's Bracers
-Hal's Ring
-Fate's Helmet
-Miracle Machine


And by 'most powerful HV', I mean something like this:
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How goes it?


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i think it fails against all of them except maybe ss's board.


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Heat Vision > Sun > Mjölnir


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Heat Vision > Sun > Mjölnir


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Well Superman’ hv is off the charts in by ALL scientific standard measurements.
Remember, man can measure heat over a thousand times hotter than the core of a Sun.

This would simply mean that Superman’s hv can potentially reach temperatures over a thousand times hotter than the core of the sun.

AFAIK, no object in comics has experienced such heat without being damaged.


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Heat Vision > Sun > Mjölnir


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i think it fails against all of them except maybe ss's board.

S'bout right


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S'bout right


Well Superman’ hv is off the charts in by ALL scientific standard measurements.
Remember, man can measure heat over a thousand times hotter than the core of a Sun.

This would simply mean that Superman’s hv can potentially reach temperatures over a thousand times hotter than the core of the sun.

AFAIK, no object in comics has experienced such heat without being damaged.


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@H1...

Does that man measuring statement apply to everyone or does it just apply to Superman?


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@H1...

Does that man measuring statement apply to everyone or does it just apply to Superman?


Don’t be daft!

It’s been shown that scientists have indeed tried to measure Kal’s heat vision and failed.

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Does that concept apply to all characters?


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Well Superman’ hv is off the charts in by ALL scientific standard measurements.
Remember, man can measure heat over a thousand times hotter than the core of a Sun.

This would simply mean that Superman’s hv can potentially reach temperatures over a thousand times hotter than the core of the sun.

AFAIK, no object in comics has experienced such heat without being damaged.


Well the majority of the objects in question are well off of the charts as well.

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i think it fails against all of them except maybe ss's board.


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Don’t be daft!

It’s been shown that scientists have indeed tried to measure Kal’s heat vision and failed



That has been used for several characters. JLA tested pre 52 "The Ray" and his energy output was off the charts.

It's hyperbole and only intended to mean we're (writers) not goimg to put a cap on it. Probably because if they do somewhere down the track someone will call them on x feat not being possible because here you said his enerfy is y and to do that is y +

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Originally posted by leonidas
i think it fails against all of them except maybe ss's board.

Was thinking the same. Maybe Fate’s helmet.


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Funny how hv was never all that powerful a weapon pre crisis. Everyone could tank it, just about.

Post crisis, it became even weaker, unable to affect random robots and missiles, getting ignored by Lobo and Bizarro Superman. At some point, if went waaaay overboard in the other direction, where he's one shotting Kryptonians and f'n Despero...


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HV was never weak. It's always one of the most devastating energy blasts from any herald.


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HV was never weak. It's always one of the most devastating energy blasts from any herald.



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All too common back then.

First fight with Captain Marvel pre crisis, he hit him with it for four/five panels. Doesn't even seem to notice.

The remake of Superman and the Forever People visiting Apokolips, he couldn't affect random robots.

Hunter/Prey, hv did jack all to missiles.


Might not have been weak, but it sure wasn't the trump card it's shown as now. A Superman vs Shazam fight today could credibly end in hv, game over.


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Yeah, it wasnt always AS powerful. In general it was like pretty much any other character’s energy blast, and more versatile, as it could focus.

And yes, i’m sure scans can be provided of HV being awesome, in the eras mentioned.
Doesnt mean HV hasnt power crept like crazy since then.

But i get it, every power Supes has must at no time have been average.


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Wanted to find scans, but hell with google, not digging into my comic stash for scans, and Abhi's already seen it all anyways, so..


A few other examples:

Mongul vs Kyle and Superman. Remember when Kal was hving Monguls face at the end, before Kyles locomotive construct to the back? Not all that effective.


Nor was the same against Anointed One, back in Morrison's JLA vs Ancient League, He was HVing AO's face, and it didn't seem to make a difference.


Compare that with taking Zod's kid down, with a full on HV assault. That just didn't happen back then (Or if it did, I'd love to see it, or get a reference.

Something better then armored Mannheim and first post crisis meeting Mongul talking about how hot it is, or the Eradicator device being shut down with it. Cool moments, though they are.)


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