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You left BFR on, which means even the physically weakest on the JLA team (Flash) is able to IMP Juggernaut and BFR him? I agree.

Flash imp is weak if we use on panel showings. Him knocking out mushy people doesn't mean he would send Juggy flying. With that said, like I said before, one important factor here is missing in you alls debate.

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I'm not talking about a KO.

I'm talking about sending him flying. When he did it to the Martian (someone who has flight) he sent him to Africa, lol.

Juggy is sent into orbit. In the first milisecond.

So numbers advantage go to JLA thumb up

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Who in the JL have actually shown countering Magneto abilities?

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Who in the JL have actually shown countering Magneto abilities?

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A flying speedster who is nowhere near the JLA in speed......lands three (more?) clean hits on Magneto.

He then grabs Northstar of course - not denying that. But three punches - now imagine they are three Superman level punches. Or WW. MM. Even GL/Aquaman.

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Who in the JL have actually shown countering Magneto abilities?

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A flying speedster who is nowhere near the JLA in speed......lands three (more?) clean hits on Magneto.

He then grabs Northstar of course - not denying that. But three punches - now imagine they are three Superman level punches. Or WW. MM. Even GL/Aquaman.

Pos the scan after that. Magneto grabbed him when he wanted to grab him.

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I'm not talking about a KO.

I'm talking about sending him flying. When he did it to the Martian (someone who has flight) he sent him to Africa, lol.

Juggy is sent into orbit. In the first milisecond.

So numbers advantage go to JLA

The Martian isnt anywhere CLOSE to being as physical resistant as Juggernaut.

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Pos the scan after that. Magneto grabbed him when he wanted to grab him.

Like I said in my post, Mags grabbed him, no doubt and no denying it.

AT ALL.

But my post still stands. A flying speedster landed three clean hits. Imagine if it were someone like WW. Someone who is faster, and DEFINITELY stronger.

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The Martian isnt anywhere CLOSE to being as physical resistant as Juggernaut.

NOT MY POINT.

Who cares if he is or not? Doesn't have to be KOed or even scratched. Not much he can do in Africa or wherever.

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What I am saying is, he wouldnt be able to even lift Juggernaut off of the ground with those soft punches.

You're missing the point about the Magneto scan. When he was ready to grab him, he did it which tells us he could have countered the initial attack if he wanted. This means your scan was irrelevant.

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A flying speedster who is nowhere near the JLA in speed......lands three (more?) clean hits on Magneto.

He then grabs Northstar of course - not denying that. But three punches - now imagine they are three Superman level punches. Or WW. MM. Even GL/Aquaman.

we've seen what Dr light who's similar in powerset to magneto and inferior do to Supes, and the JL, even Dr Polaris has managed to take control over the rings before

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What I am saying is, he wouldnt be able to even lift Juggernaut off of the ground with those soft punches.

You're missing the point about the Magneto scan. When he was ready to grab him, he did it which tells us he could have countered the initial attack if he wanted. This means your scan was irrelevant.

How much does Juggy weigh?

So your point is that Mags is fast enough to outspeed WW's reflexes? If she attempts to blitz him with her battle-honed fight reflexes, he can counter?

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we've seen what Dr light who's similar in powerset to magneto and inferior do to Supes, and the JL, even Dr Polaris has managed to take control over the rings before

GL's ring isn't magnetic anymore, lol.

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GL's ring isn't magnetic anymore, lol.

Yes they are

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Wonder Woman would run right into a shield and get destroyed by half the things she wears or uses being metal.

It'd be like Stilt-Man in a workplace of ladies levels of bad.

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Yes they are

Please stop.

Hal Jordans ring is made of his own will power.

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Please stop.

Hal Jordans ring is made of his own will power.

first issue of Hal Jordan And The Green Lantern Corps disagrees with you. Hal created a HARD LIGHT metal, shaped it with blacksmith tools, and boom a new ring in that comic

May 6th, 2018 10:05 PM

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How much does Juggy weigh?

So your point is that Mags is fast enough to outspeed WW's reflexes? If she attempts to blitz him with her battle-honed fight reflexes, he can counter?

So I can punch Superman off of his feet? I am trying to figure out why you are asking me Juggernaut weight.

Nope; I do think he is fast enough to put a shield up.

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I don't think you could punch a 220 pound dude off their feet

I've always seen you more as a stabber than a puncher for whatever reason

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I don't think you could punch a 220 pound dude off their feet

I've always seen you more as a stabber than a puncher for whatever reason