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bluewaterrider
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I honestly doubt that it would work. His armor is still made out of durasteel and it's allowed him to shrug off being inside of a weapons facility as its reactor went critical, survive an ancient sith battleship blowing up underneath him,and tank two AT-ST'S falling on him.


Punisher should have enough sense to try attacks specifically tailored to attack the electrical systems of Vader's life support suit.

Magnetic mines and electro magnetic pulses (EMPs) come immediately to mind.
Tell me why the following should or would not happen to Vader.

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Sources: Darth Vader #s 23 and 24, Volume 1
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Originally posted by cdtm
Castle gets prep.


Who wins?


Even with prep, Vader would have to be physically held in place, smoke massive amounts of OG Kush, and mind raped in order to lose.


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^^^Oh, well that convinced me.
Way to bury the lead, Vader fans.


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^^^Oh, well that convinced me.
Way to bury the lead, Vader fans.


His psionic might is too much. He could burst Frank's organs the moment that the match began, or just toss him 500 feet into the air and wait for the splat.


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His psionic might is too much. He could burst Frank's organs the moment that the match began, or just toss him 500 feet into the air and wait for the splat.


Why didn't he do any of that in the episode shown above?

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Why didn't he do any of that in the episode shown above?


Wait a sec. You actually believe that Frank has a chance here? Or are you going to pretend that Vader does not have Force powers?


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Vader. Not necessarily easily given the stipulations, but Vader.


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vader wins and easily, the simple fact that the op tried to stack the thread in Punishers favor shows how much Castle is out of his league


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vader wins and easily, the simple fact that the op tried to stack the thread in Punishers favor shows how much Castle is out of his league
The OP tried to make a legit and balanced versus thread since everybody knows that Vader would rape Castle in a direct confrontation.


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Punisher should have enough sense to try attacks specifically tailored to attack the electrical systems of Vader's life support suit.

Magnetic mines and electro magnetic pulses (EMPs) come immediately to mind.
Tell me why the following should or would not happen to Vader.

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Sources: Darth Vader #s 23 and 24, Volume 1
Circa: 2016
you do realize that Vader casually kept himself alive without his suit turned on in the very next issue right?


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you do realize that Vader casually kept himself alive without his suit turned on in the very next issue right?


Same one, actually -- the last 4 of my scans is from Vader #24.

But do you realize how LONG it took Vader to recover movement and function?

Frank would have used Vader's own sabre to quarter V's head in the time of all the monologuing Cylo did and all V's reminiscing.

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Didn't want to be the one to say it.

Frank could have grabbed a sandwich, shave, and a shower, and still had time to bisect Vader.


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The OP tried to make a legit and balanced versus thread since everybody knows that Vader would rape Castle in a direct confrontation.


how is it balance when he needs plot devices to be relevant?


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Same one, actually -- the last 4 of my scans is from Vader #24.

But do you realize how LONG it took Vader to recover movement and function?

Frank would have used Vader's own sabre to quarter V's head in the time of all the monologuing Cylo did and all V's reminiscing.


So now Frank has outside help now to whip up a remote to shut down Vader's suit?


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Wait a sec. You actually believe that Frank has a chance here? Or are you going to pretend that Vader does not have Force powers?

The only pretending being done here is by ppl acting as if the Force is an insta win in this situation.
I mean you’re free to do so, but its not going to get anyone to change their call.


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Source: Darth Vader #1
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Wait a sec. You actually believe that Frank has a chance here? Or are you going to pretend that Vader does not have Force powers?



Let me be clear:

If Vader were the one given one-sided prep-time, Vader would win.

If both sides were given prep-time, Vader would PROBABLY win, but it's somewhat more difficult to call.

If this were a standard match, and neither side had prep-time, Vader would win.


However, you don't HAVE any of the situations listed.

You have Punisher alone receiving prep-time.

And that's something different altogether.

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It's prep. One sided.

So two combatants start at locations A and B, 500m apart.

Except Frank has rigged location A with explosives, sonics, whatever ...




I'm finding this actually IS the Punisher's M.O.

Notice how much he's got set up just for dealing with ordinary thugs:


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Frank does good job with sonics, as seen when he wrecked Daredevil.




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Originally posted by Kazenji
So now Frank has outside help now to whip up a remote to shut down Vader's suit?



Did Punisher have "outside help" when he made and used a remote-controlled ultrasonic trap to take down Daredevil, through DD's heightened hearing and sense abilities, as shown in my previous post?

Here's what happened when DD woke up, by the way:

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Source: Punisher #3
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