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Originally posted by krisblaze
This shit annoys me to no end.

Everybody has access to ****ing everything nowadays.


I know its non canon, but Wade having Pym particles in Deathstroke Kills the Marvel Universe was funny.

Makes you wonder where guys like him and Castle get their stuff. No way Pym, Stark, or T'challa would allow their tech to reach the black market, so there's an untold story of a dealer/mole waiting to be told.

I mean, imagine if everyone and their mother had Bat Tech, or Nth metal, or a Mother Box. It ain't happening.


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....none of that stuff (that Frank was wearing in Suicide Kings) would enable him to kill vader.


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Sooooooo, maybe he uses different stuff?


I'm not 100% convinced Klaw's weapon alone wouldn't be enough to handle Vader. I seem to recall even the first time I read of Klaw in Secret Wars that he had the ability to create sound constructs with his hand blaster. There Klaw needed a portion of Doom's stolen Beyonder-power to make the constructs real.
It seems that might have been a demotion from how formidable the blaster constructs were originally intended to be. Imagine how surprised I was to see what Klaw could do, and did, in his first known appearance:

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Note the ability of Klaw's sound constructs to reflect BACK the force applied by the attacker. This has some VERY interesting implications for how a match against an evil Jedi might go ...

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Source: Fantastic Four #53
Circa: ~1965

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Yeah, i know, i was just saying the scan proved Fank can bring a variety of esoteric weaponry into play, mot necessarily just what he was shiwn with.


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But now everybody knows!

That's the power of that "internet" thing I was talking about!
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I honestly doubt that it would work. His armor is still made out of durasteel and it's allowed him to shrug off being inside of a weapons facility as its reactor went critical, survive an ancient sith battleship blowing up underneath him,and tank two AT-ST'S falling on him.


As I've said before in numerous threads, and proved to some extent with the first Black Panther versus Klaw showing in Fantastic Four #53 above, sonics in comicdom are a very special class of weaponry. Klaw's device(s) alone wrecked a building under construction, the super-powered Wrecking Crew, and the Human Torch and Ben, all of which you can see from earlier in this thread.

I think Klaw's tech all by itself, which Punisher was already shown having and using, would be sufficient, but I wanted to make people aware of just how durable an opponent sonics can take down in the MCU:



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... with some background material for context:





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Source: Uncanny X-Men #194
Circa: early 1980s

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Counterpoint ...

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Inasmuch as I believe sonics in their various shapes and forms have an almost unparalleled rate of success in the comic world, I would be remiss if I did not say on rare occasion, and especially recently, I HAVE come across instances where they either failed or were dealt with in such a way that good tech or prep or foresight were able to neutralize them.

Foremost on my mind is the following instance, taken from the relatively short-lived "Superior Iron Man" title:


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Here Pepper finds (Extremis-influenced?) Tony regards sonics, unlike most of the rest of the Marvel Universe, enough of a threat to incorporate safeguards against them in his most advanced armors:


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Originally posted by krisblaze

Everybody has access to ... everything nowadays.


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We still doing this?

Its interesting, at least.


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