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Captain Marvel Vs Wonder Man

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Fight Takes Place in Orbit.

Who Wins?

Current and Classic Versions.

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Wonder Man's stamina can't be matched by anyone but Goliath.


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Wonder Man would still win


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Their last fight happened in Revengers 2-part arc, I think... it was pretty even.

Only Carol looked like a woman then.


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Thought he was mind controlled?


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Thought he was mind controlled?


No, he just disagreed with Avengers' ways and formed a team that was supposed to stop them.

He calmed down in later arcs and became a pacifist laughing out loud That's why he didn't even try to fight Banner in their most recent encounter, btw.


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He was always slightly above her. Not sure anymore, she may have been given a push that makes her surpass him. It wouldn't surprise me if she could beat him up as badly as Hyperion did these days.


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Power-wise Carol hasn't changed much... she was totally unable to hurt the Hulk (Bruce) with her blows...

But she can go Binary, right?


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Power-wise Carol hasn't changed much... she was totally unable to hurt the Hulk (Bruce) with her blows...

But she can go Binary, right?


Going Binary may not be an option at this point in time.


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I see.


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Power-wise Carol hasn't changed much... she was totally unable to hurt the Hulk (Bruce) with her blows...

But she can go Binary, right?
That was under Hickman though with normal power. Once Bendis got his bald headed chicken fukker hooks in her is when she shot way up.

Bendis Binary vs Hulk would be a fight. Bendis Captain Marvel actually vs Hulk would likely be a big one. Even under Ewing she shot up pretty high as well, and she's accepted as more powerful than Blue Marvel under seemingly normal instances.

I don't think we even have an in universe explanation either. I know people are like "Tony's suits are shit" but that Civil War 2 fight was a huge disparity in what Carol used to be and what she is now. Raping Iron Man in a big super suit is far beyond her previous paygrade.


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Power-wise Carol hasn't changed much... she was totally unable to hurt the Hulk (Bruce) with her blows...

But she can go Binary, right?
Binary isn't that impressive, Colossus was able to restrain her.

Simon wins.


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Binary isn't that impressive, Colossus was able to restrain her.

Simon wins.


Depends on the writer.


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I don't think we even have an in universe explanation either. I know people are like "Tony's suits are shit" but that Civil War 2 fight was a huge disparity in what Carol used to be and what she is now. Raping Iron Man in a big super suit is far beyond her previous paygrade.

It's not just that "his suits are shit." It's that people focus on that one scan. She evaporated his armor after an entire issue of back and forth fighting, where she's constantly amping of his energy. She didn't start out at that level, failing on her early attempt to destroy his suit.

She was completely drunk last time they fought, and still nearly tore his head off after amping. She's just a bad matchup for Tony. It's why he prepped against her energy absorption in their first CWII encounter. He makes a brand new armor and some how forgot to add that little feature though.

It's just not that big a deal imo. At the very least, it only told us what we already knew. She has really strong energy attacks that she can amp if given the opportunity.

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It's not just that "his suits are shit." It's that people focus on that one scan. She evaporated his armor after an entire issue of back and forth fighting, where she's constantly amping of his energy. She didn't start out at that level, failing on her early attempt to destroy his suit.

She was completely drunk last time they fought, and still nearly tore his head off after amping. She's just a bad matchup for Tony. It's why he prepped against her energy absorption in their first CWII encounter. He makes a brand new armor and some how forgot to add that little feature though.

It's just not that big a deal imo. At the very least, it only told us what we already knew. She has really strong energy attacks that she can amp if given the opportunity.
Where was it said she amped off his energy in the second fight? All I remember it saying is that it wouldn't taint her like the previous one did. And in the prior fight, Tony only blasted her because he knew it would take her out Not that he used much energy blasts like that one, but it'd be a little odd that he suddenly started amping her without a statement.

Also pretty much every attack she landed did noticable damage to his suit. In fact I don't think she ever landed an attack without it showing at least a cubic foot worth of damage.

Which is something that seemed previously above her level by far without Binary. Though I'd be curious of how you'd explain how she did so much damage to Thanos to the point of an argument being made that she could solo him.

At least under Bendis her feats are way higher than what she previously has shown. And he wrote her before too. I highly doubt she would have been much threat to Iron Man in Mighty Avengers for that matter under Bendis, let alone a big amped Iron Man. Her power has creeped tremendously. Even under Ewing she was regarded as more powerful than Blue Marvel


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They already fought, he wrecked her. Now if she goes Binary, it's game over for him.


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That was under Hickman though with normal power. Once Bendis got his bald headed chicken fukker hooks in her is when she shot way up.

Bendis Binary vs Hulk would be a fight. Bendis Captain Marvel actually vs Hulk would likely be a big one. Even under Ewing she shot up pretty high as well, and she's accepted as more powerful than Blue Marvel under seemingly normal instances.

I don't think we even have an in universe explanation either. I know people are like "Tony's suits are shit" but that Civil War 2 fight was a huge disparity in what Carol used to be and what she is now. Raping Iron Man in a big super suit is far beyond her previous paygrade.


What tier would you place "this" Captain Marvel?


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What tier would you place "this" Captain Marvel?


"trans"?


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"trans"?

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I don't think any writer actually thinks of her as a big gun. It's like, the new-age Marvel SJW's that write her that way to get browny points. Otherwise, she's in the background. Editorial force feeds her like some chemotherapy drug. Her books always tank.

Nobody likes her, and she was a **** in CW2.


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