LeG, the reason Ragnos, or any of the other ancient Sith, didn’t talk to Vitiate, is because they hated him, not necessarily because they feared him. Hence why Sadow attacked one of Vitiate’s Sith infiltrators, and named Exar Kun the Dark Lord of the Sith.
__________________ ”You presume limits to my power. There are none.”
In Marka's days as Lord of the Sith, Vitiate seemed scared of him, but I think thats because he couldn't get a read on how powerful he really was.
A lot of the stuff that comes from the ancients is how powerful they're implied to be.
Tulak is implied to be one of the best lightsaber duelists in the mythos, Marka is implied to be incredibly physically strong and also a powerhouse in terms of force powers.
But... no one knows for sure what these guys are capable of because we've never actually SEEN them do anything that impressive besides a few, notably Tulak Hord, Exar Kun, Freedon Nadd, and Karness Murr.
Yes. It was... Exar Kun and Ulic's gauntlet amulets merely re-summoned him(and others) back to the living world for a couple of moments. Then, he returned back to the Chaos dimension.
We know this because Tavion Axmis needed to harness a huge amount of Force energy from several Dark Side nexi. Why would that be necessary if Ragnos' spirit was not banished into another dimension? Unless the scepter was capable to open a stable pathway to Chaos dimension(but it needed huge amounts of Dark Side energy to access it) unlike the Sith gauntlets.
Ragnos - himself states that when the amulets were joined - his comeback was possible.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
They are angry because they have been forced to recognize that their hour has arrived; that the time has come to surrender power to Shimrra and the new order."
Lord Vitiate didn't fear Marka Ragnos; the former was simply not into the politics of the Empire until the Great Galactic War which changed the calculus for virtually everybody of note.
There isn't much information to draw from in regards to interactions between Ragnos and Lord Vitiate besides the fact that the latter's power at just the age of 13 was sufficient to impress Ragnos and secure his cooperation. The two might be on good terms since.
However, Ragnos's spirit did not bother to get in touch with Emperor Vitiate. I have pointed out a reason for this earlier.
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There must be a reason for them to hate Emperor Vitiate.
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__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
marka ragnos has feats that we can note freedon, he is not like dark underlord.
Powers and abilitiesEdit
"It matters not who I am. My power is all that concerns you. You have both found the amulets…and each other…now the power of these amulets is joined…and I have come."
―Marka Ragnos[src]
Scepterofragnos
Marka Ragnos' scepter.
Marka Ragnos was powerful, both physically and in the use of the Force,[8] and was considered to be among the most powerful Sith and Force-users in Sith and Jedi history,[6] leading the Sith Empire to a Golden Age of their existence, conducting brutal and ruthless campaigns against his Sith enemies.[6][11][8] Ragnos had such knowledge about the Force, that even during his funeral, he was able to show himself to Naga Sadow and Ludo Kressh as a spirit, orchestrating their duel, thus deciding the future fate of the Sith Empire.[6] He also knew how to keep the essence of his body alive, 5000 years after his death, and was proficient in the use of Sith magic.[10] Ragnos' connection with the Force was strong enough to possess Tavion Axmis in order to fight against Jaden Korr.[3]
Ragnos didn't always wield a lightsaber, the common weapon of the Sith Lords[18] and the Jedi Knights,[19] instead, he mostly wielded a Sith sword,[3] consisting of a metal blade enhanced by Sith sorcery,[3] a weapon of the primitive Sith race,[10] which he could hide inside his scepter.[3] It is possible only he knew of the sword's hiding place, as Tavion Axmis did not draw it until she was possessed by Ragnos.[3]
His skills with his customized Sith sword were remarkable in his duel against Jaden Korr inside of his own tomb, as he could skillfully deflect the attacks Korr provided against him, and at the same time,[3] he could unleash the power of the Sith magic with which his sword was imbued.[3] Ragnos also owned a pair of dark gauntlets which increased his skill with a melee weapon or a lightsaber.[8]
According to Lord Lokar, he could also focus the dark side to make himself nearly unwoundable in battle.
EquipmentEdit
Marka Ragnos had a mystical Scepter, which had the ability to siphon and store dark side energy, and it could also release the power of the Force on ordinary beings to make them Force-sensitive.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
this is not the only source you know, no one ever tried to assasinate him which is just enough to tell you that people were scared of death or worse. let us see, marr attacked vitiate, revan, etc.
Your analogy is ill-suited to draw a parallel with the case of Marka Ragnos and Vitiate.
Do you think that Palpatine and Marka Ragnos think alike? Marka Ragnos might regard Darth Maul as an average joe since he was ruling an Empire where powerhouses were numerous. However, Tenebrae was extraordinary by any measure:
The child who will come to be known as the Sith Emperor is born. Black-eyed, heartless, and supremely strong in the dark side of the Force, the boy seizes control of his homeworld by the age of 13 and earns the title Lord Vitiate.
From Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
How many 13 year olds have slaughtered Sith Lords left and right and seized control of a planet by force?
Palpatine wasn't ruling an Empire, and Darth Maul was a refreshing sight to him since he was in search for a suitable apprentice. If Palpatine had been ruling an Empire, he would have a list of potential candidates to single out one from for apprenticeship.
As for Tenebrae not challenging Marka Ragnos; this doesn't imply weakness and/or lack of capability. Every strongman is not necessarily a wrestler, by choice. Tenebrae was simply not interested in contending for the throne at the time:
He amasses an army of Sith followers and turn his back on Imperial politics to hone his skills in the dark side.
From Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
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May 12th, 2018 06:52 PM
Thanks Scribble!
