Literally any sort of dissent can be spun to fit those qualifications. Consequence is a result of luck, we judge on the action, and merely expressing hatred is not an infringement of someone's rights. Hence to infringe someone's rights over it is completely unjustified.
To take someone's rights/freedoms is degrading them. Hence it can only ever be justified when they are violating someone's rights.
The irony here is that slavery violated people's right to free speech. And many justifications of this used an identical justification to the one you're presenting. If a slave speaks against his master, he can justifably be punished because he's accompanying to potential rebellion against said master. This is a technique used by literally every dictator ever. Silence speech on the basis that it will cause chaos and endanger people's safety. This is nonsense. If an act itself is not violating or threatening to violate someone's rights, you have no buisness to violate the actor's rights.
Ah, so your solution for the subversion of free speech, is to further subvert free speech?
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Yeah here's an idea, maybe Blacks would've been genuinely oppressed in America longer if they were not allowed to speak freely.
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I can all but guarantee Putinbot is one of those dimwits that will say that the whole conservative embracing of free speech really isn't about free speech, just getting to espouse "alt right ideas".
He would, of course, be 100% wrong in that. It's not about the alt right, as it's not nearly just the "alt right" speakers that suffer.
Bet you he'd even label Jordan Peterson alt right.
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He probably supports the Dankula verdict lol
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Free Speech went hand in hand with Slavery for a long time in the US. You may not like it. But it's true, the voice of the poor and minorities is always less free than the voice of the wealthy. You may not like it, but it's true.
Let's avoid the word respect if people want to play semantics and use dignity.
Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
(Hate speak undermines article one)
Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
(Hate Speak undermines article 2)
In fact almost all articles are undermined by hate speak.
Freedom of Speach nutjobs who don't understand peoples Freedoms end when they affect others always cite
Article 19.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
However whilst this appears to advocate absolute freedom of speech it is modiefied by
Article 30.
Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.
Which limits the rights of an individual when it affects another's human rights.
I know Alt-right internet nutjobs hate the UDHR personally I see it as one of the greatest texts ever written.
Freedom of speech actually helped end slavery. And while it's true that the voice of the poor and disenfranchised is always diminished compared to the powerful and the wealthy(this is true in every society, regardless of the laws), the 1st Amendment mitigates this as much as possible. In a way that hate speech laws never could.
Nowhere in the UDHR does it say that people have a right to not be offended. And while the UDHR is a great document, it doesn't hold a candle to the US Constitution.
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Umm, the civil war helped end slavery, Freedom of speech helped end segregation officially, but it never ended defacto separation. In fact, things like hyper-segregation and residential segregation across the states are still very strong. Interestingly both were declining very slowly till 2016... Now they are almost static.
Well, Wars are non-deterministic they turn on events, if the Confederacy had won the civil war slavery could still be going on today, many argue Atlanta was the point they were broken and the yankee victory became inevitable.
I think 2016 was another turning point, whether it is long lasting or not we won't know for years, I do not bigots feel free to spread bile.
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