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Who is more heroic: Captain America vs. Thor

Inspired by the Who is more heroic; Thor or Superman thread, let's now compare Captain America and Thor, as I believe they're actually quite similar.

Both have willingly sacrificed their lives for the benefit of others. Both have led teams into battle: Cap with the Howling Commandoes and Avengers, Thor with the Revengers and the Warriors 3 + Sif. Both have no issues killing but will try to avoid it if possible. Both have gone against rules and laws to follow their own moral compass: Cap in going against the Accords plus protecting Bucky, Thor in going against Odin's orders plus bending rules for Loki. Both even have a momentous bicep-flexing scene.

So... who's more heroic?


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I think cap is more heroic. Thor odinson was naturally the biggest stringest dude on the block. Cap was two steps away from being a cripple, but still wanted to fight. Not to kill Nazis, but to protect and serve. I feel like trying to help even when you know it's helpless is pretty neat

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I think cap is more heroic. Thor odinson was naturally the biggest stringest dude on the block. Cap was two steps away from being a cripple, but still wanted to fight. Not to kill Nazis, but to protect and serve. I feel like trying to help even when you know it's helpless is pretty neat


I think they both had their challenges. Steve had almost nothing in the beginning, not even a healthy normal body. Thor had almost everything but then it got taken away from him, losing his powers, his wealth and status, etc.


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Tough one. This is a very close call. I’m siding with Thor.


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Cap easy

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Cap easy
Based on?


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Thor the MCU's greatest hero.

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Captain America easily. Cap is a better leader and more inspiring as well.

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Captain America easily. Cap is a better leader and more inspiring as well.
Based on? Explain yourself, kiddo.


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Thor saved the Universe in TDW. He saved multiple realms in Thor 1 from the bifrost. He saved Asgardians from Hela and thus other worlds that she would have conquered. And yet he's still teamed up and saved Earth several times. I gotta give the edge to Thor. Cap is every bit as brave and heroic but lacks the ability to be the hero Thor can be.


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Cap for sure. The guy is the physical embodiment of the Army Values.


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Based on? Explain yourself, kiddo.


When you said Thor, no one bat an eye. But yet your always asking people to explain themselves.

Why don’t you explain yourself.

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Thor saved the Universe in TDW. He saved multiple realms in Thor 1 from the bifrost. He saved Asgardians from Hela and thus other worlds that she would have conquered. And yet he's still teamed up and saved Earth several times. I gotta give the edge to Thor. Cap is every bit as brave and heroic but lacks the ability to be the hero Thor can be.


Thats where we differ. To me being heroic isnt just about being powerful. Its about leadership, integrity, character, being able to inspire people and stand up for whats right. I will give Hemsworth a ton of credit because up until Ragnarok this wouldnt even have been close but Ragnarok and iW, Thor has grown a great deal as a character. Prior to that he was really just the muscle and had no real character depth.

First Avenger, Winter Soldier, Civil war, Avengers 1 and 2, IW. No matter the movie Cap(along with Stark) have been portrayed as the leaders, as the heart and soul of the whole MCU. Thats why in the next movie one of if not both of those two will die. It will have the biggest impact because of what the characters stand for.

Again, I think Thor is a great hero, just not the same as Cap to me and what I define a hero to be.

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To me being heroic isnt just about being powerful. Its about leadership, integrity, character, being able to inspire people and stand up for whats right.


You might also want to take into consideration their accomplishments. You'd probably want to back a hero who has a good win record and the impact their victories make. I mean, both Thor and Cap have great accomplishments, just thought I'd point out that it's not only the attitude but also the results that matter.


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Cap easily IMO.

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Cap fights those that he KNOWS he can't beat and yet he fights on anyways; Cap is the better hero because he is vulnerable and he can die but he decides to sacrifice his wants and dreams to do better for mankind. That is a Hero

Thor is a prince/king who saved his people sure but he strikes me more as a guy cleaning up his own mess most of the time; the only time he was on Caps level of heroism was only used to prove himself worthy of Mjolnir.

Cap give more to the struggle than Thor does, that is why hes a better hero.


Now lets hear your explanation Quan, if you can manage one

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By your own standard, you just proved Thor is more of a hero, after all. he proved himself worthy of Mjolnir. whereas Cap was shown to not be worthy.


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Cap moved the hammer, he just stopped to not hurt thor's feelings. Because cap is a true bro

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By your own standard, you just proved Thor is more of a hero, after all. he proved himself worthy of Mjolnir. whereas Cap was shown to not be worthy.


How does being worth mean you are the better hero? We don't know the exact specifics of the worthy enchantment after all.

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To me, this is how this situation feels like:

Do you root for the underdog? The one who's life has been one big uphill climb, the one who came from nothing and yet continuously pushes himself higher, to defeat opponents above his weight class, giving everything he has to the fight because he can't sit idly by and do nothing?

Or do you root for the champion? The one who has everything to lose and yet continuously puts everything on the line, continuously throws himself into the fire even if it risks costing him everything, even if he has nothing prove, because he can't sit idly by and let other people take his burden?


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