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DC seems to compensate good quality fightning scenes and OP power scenes for good quality movie...

On the other hand MCU seems to careless for character powers...I mean look at Thanos, he is nothing like the comics powerwise.



With the exception of the fisticuffs with the Hulk, who isn't a skilled fighter, but a brute/brawler, everything you've described about Thanos was with Thanos having 4 or more stones.

Zod wasn't as powerful as Superman, as Superman had decades on Earth absorbing solar energy and adjusting to the environment while Zod had a couple of days at most. Yet Zod still took punches and HV without injury. No cuts, no bruises nothing, His hair even stayed unruffled. Kal had to snap his neck to stop him.

Thanos can, but again, that was all with the power of 4 or more infinity stones assisting him. In this matchup he has zero. It should also be noted that Thanos with 4 stones almost lost and it was ONLY due to Quinn's buttrage emotional mistake that saved him. Thanos technically lost to the group while possessing 4 stones.


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With the exception of the fisticuffs with the Hulk, who isn't a skilled fighter, but a brute/brawler, everything you've described about Thanos was with Thanos having 4 or more stones.

Zod wasn't as powerful as Superman, as Superman had decades on Earth absorbing solar energy and adjusting to the environment while Zod had a couple of days at most. Yet Zod still took punches and HV without injury. No cuts, no bruises nothing, His hair even stayed unruffled. Kal had to snap his neck to stop him.

Thanos can, but again, that was all with the power of 4 or more infinity stones assisting him. In this matchup he has zero.
Thanos also used his physicality to ward off the heroes. There was quite a bit of time when the cape cut off his access to use the stones. Everything he physically did was with his own strength and reflexes.

So I agree Zod is weaker than Superman so if she can take a headbutt and hurt him being physically weaker what’s Thanos going to do to the weaker Zod.

His neck was snapped so that proves he can be killed physically and we already see Thanos overpower the Hulk straight up. Thanos crushes him in short order. If WW can rock Superman Thanos is going to destroy Zod.


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The one thing DC has done better than Marvel is shown Speed in regards to Combat Speed and overall speed. They also have shown striking power better. When Kryptonians throw punches you see shockwaves, they appear visually to be more powerful, sending each other through buildings, being more impactful.

I think that is why people give the Kryptonians so many wins in this forum because it appears they are faster and hit harder than their Marvel counterparts.

Thats just my observation


It's true that DC loves to showcase superspeed and superstrength way more than the MCU does, but in this case I think it's starting to be a detriment for them. For one, they're incredibly inconsistent with their power levels, especially superspeed. They also don't know how to power cap, so they'll end up with a hero who's extremely powerful in one movie who'll need to be nerfed down in the next just to make the story interesting.


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You keep using that WW headbutt but the same exact thing happened to Thanos who took an uppercut from Cap. Head rocked back but no damage done. If you want to lowball Superman, you have to lowball Thanos

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It's true that DC loves to showcase superspeed and superstrength way more than the MCU does, but in this case I think it's starting to be a detriment for them. For one, they're incredibly inconsistent with their power levels, especially superspeed. They also don't know how to power cap, so they'll end up with a hero who's extremely powerful in one movie who'll need to be nerfed down in the next just to make the story interesting.


Good point on the last part. Based off JL, unless they bring Darkseid in next or play some Kryptonite angle, Superman will probably be nerfed.

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The one thing DC has done better than Marvel is shown Speed in regards to Combat Speed and overall speed. They also have shown striking power better. When Kryptonians throw punches you see shockwaves, they appear visually to be more powerful, sending each other through buildings, being more impactful.

I think that is why people give the Kryptonians so many wins in this forum because it appears they are faster and hit harder than their Marvel counterparts.

Thats just my observation
Shockwaves have happened in the MCU from punches. When Hulk punched Hulkbuster in AV2 there was a shockwave. Then Thor punched Hulk in Ragnarok there was a shockwave. Do they show shockwaves on every punch in EITHER universe? NO. Shockwaves don't mean squat.


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Shockwaves have happened in the MCU from punches. When Hulk punched Hulkbuster in AV2 there was a shockwave. Then Thor punched Hulk in Ragnarok there was a shockwave. Do they show shockwaves on every punch in EITHER universe? NO. Shockwaves don't mean squat.


Watch the Zod vs Superman fight. Basically every punch thrown. The fight overall looks much faster and more powerful.

Also you take my statement that DCU does it better to mean that Marvel doesnt do it at all.

Visual it appears to be between more powerful characters. Its ok for Marvel to not be the best at everything.

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Thanos beatdown awakened ragnarok Thor. Zod gets his neck snapped because he's a brawler. Once Thanos assesses the threat, he'll handle it hulk style, swift 6 piece, followed by neck snap.


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Anyway, back to this fight. If Zod is still armored then he has a big glaring weakness in his helmet. If Thanos cracks that Zod is easily susceptible to KO. Plus Zod didn't really showcase that great speed while suited up and his skill is nowhere near what we've seen from Thanos. Basically, armored Zod is pretty much a smaller, faster Hulk with a mask weakness.

Fully powered Zod is a different story. Now he has flight, ranged attacks and better speed feats. I don't see Thanos beating that.


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Sorry for straying from thread. I think Zod wins.

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With the exception of the fisticuffs with the Hulk, who isn't a skilled fighter, but a brute/brawler, everything you've described about Thanos was with Thanos having 4 or more stones.

Zod wasn't as powerful as Superman, as Superman had decades on Earth absorbing solar energy and adjusting to the environment while Zod had a couple of days at most. Yet Zod still took punches and HV without injury. No cuts, no bruises nothing, His hair even stayed unruffled. Kal had to snap his neck to stop him.

Thanos can, but again, that was all with the power of 4 or more infinity stones assisting him. In this matchup he has zero. It should also be noted that Thanos with 4 stones almost lost and it was ONLY due to Quinn's buttrage emotional mistake that saved him. Thanos technically lost to the group while possessing 4 stones.


What Robtard!!?


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You keep using that WW headbutt but the same exact thing happened to Thanos who took an uppercut from Cap. Head rocked back but no damage done. If you want to lowball Superman, you have to lowball Thanos
They slow mowed that and Thanos easily punched him down. Vision knew they couldn’t stop him so please stop. You’re embarrassing yourself. It isn’t close. WW is in Superman’s league in terms of strength Cap isn’t. Thanos overpowered the Hulk. Thanos is stronger than Superman.


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Sorry for straying from thread. I think Zod wins.
Based on?


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What Robtard!!?


What confused you?


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What confused you?


You are quoting me for things i haven't said...


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You are quoting me for things i haven't said...


Weird, somehow did a double-post and it tagged you the second time. Not sure how/why.


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Pretty pathetic. Just because Thanos got rocked by Cap, had to struggle pushing him, couldnt get through SW shields in time, was saved by Quill being an idiot and was on his knees in front of Thor. You dont have to start making things up like" it was in slow mo" face it Thanos w/o the Gauntlet is just a big brawler who didnt show any fantastic strength our speed.

WW, Aquaman and Cyborg were all pushing Superman and he wasnt even budging. He was holding WW and Aquaman w/one arm each while Cyborg was flying and pushing his chest. He was doing that while watching Flash in superspeed.

Kneel before Zod. Thanos is already used to that

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Weird, somehow did a double-post and it tagged you the second time. Not sure how/why.


Okay....DON'T DO IT AGAIN OR NEXT TIME I'LL SHOOT YOU ****ING BASTARD!

Hahaha, so lovely me! laughing out loud


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Pretty pathetic. Just because Thanos got rocked by Cap, had to struggle pushing him, couldnt get through SW shields in time, was saved by Quill being an idiot and was on his knees in front of Thor. You dont have to start making things up like" it was in slow mo" face it Thanos w/o the Gauntlet is just a big brawler who didnt show any fantastic strength our speed.

WW, Aquaman and Cyborg were all pushing Superman and he wasnt even budging. He was holding WW and Aquaman w/one arm each while Cyborg was flying and pushing his chest. He was doing that while watching Flash in superspeed.

Kneel before Zod. Thanos is already used to that
Thanos was not rocked he was just surprised by Cap’s resolve but he quickly took care of him. So? He had the time stone so he won. Synagogue looked ahead in over 14 million possible outcomes so just stop already. Thanos is the alpha here, kiddo. Thanos overpowered the Hulk in strength. I’ve said what the directors said about Thanos.

So? None of them are really strong or even in Thor’s league. WW took his headbutt and rocked him with one of her own and she’s weaker than he is. Zod dies the guy was pure failure. Joe el beat him as did kal el. Failure personified. laughing out loud


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