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What is DMD's rationale for Darth Bane > Dooku?
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What is DMD's rationale for Darth Bane > Dooku?

in regards to their abilities in the force.


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Bane is pretty powerful proficient in force lightning, TK, beast control, etc. He overcame the avatar of Darth Addendu’s holocron avatar by pure mental force. I’d dare say he’s a better swordsman then Dooku

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Bane is pretty powerful proficient in force lightning, TK, beast control, etc.


Well we all know Dooku never used telekinesis or lightning or friggin beast control. Truly, Bane is an outstanding individual.


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Well we all know Dooku never used telekinesis or lightning or friggin beast control. Truly, Bane is an outstanding individual.


Do you think Bane can beat Dooku?

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Do you think Bane can beat Dooku?

I mean, you can make a case for it. More often than not, though, I'd back the Count.


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I mean, you can make a case for it. More often than not, though, I'd back the Count.


The issue is makashi is a weakness to Djem So.
And Bane is highly skilled in Djem So. I think he would overwhelm Dooku, like Anakin did.

So at the end of the day I would say Bane, but Dooku puts up a fight for sure.

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Bane could deflect every raindrop in a storm I think Bane would best him

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The issue is makashi is a weakness to Djem So.
And Bane is highly skilled in Djem So. I think he would overwhelm Dooku, like Anakin did.

So at the end of the day I would say Bane, but Dooku puts up a fight for sure.

I mean, that's assuming Dooku didn't compensate for Makashi's weakness(he did), didn't have knowledge of how other forms work(he did), isn't absurdly strong(he is), and Bane is as skilled/strong/fast as Anakin(he isn't).

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Bane could deflect every raindrop in a storm I think Bane would best him

I mean, Obi has a feat of deflecting omnidirectional blaster fire, and Dooku is at least on par with him in speed.


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The issue is makashi is a weakness to Djem So.
And Bane is highly skilled in Djem So. I think he would overwhelm Dooku, like Anakin did.

So at the end of the day I would say Bane, but Dooku puts up a fight for sure.
That argument is as old as time itself. Dooku has never had trouble with aggressive form duelists. He's successfully dealt with both Sora Bulq and Quinlan Vos (legends incarnations) who were Vaapad and Djem So practitioners, respectively.

Dooku lost to Anakin because he was a higher caliber duelist--tier 9. Nick Gillard has stated that differences in light-saber style, physicals, small details, etc only really have an effect on the outcome of a duel when two duelists are on the same tier.

You would need to make the claim that Bane is on Dooku's tier as a duelist; which ultimately comes down to holistic strength in the force.

We know that Bane struggled to defeat Kas'im after the latter switched to using jar kai—a fighting style Bane hadn't experienced before. He was only able to challenge Kas'im prior to that because the pair had sparred so many times before, hence a familiarity advantage.

Bane had to collapse the temple on Kas'im to defeat him as he knew he would lose eventually in sabers. Kas'im was described as being one of the finest lightsaber practitioners of his time; an accolade that could just as well be attributed to Dooku.

Unlike Kas'im, however, Bane would not have the advantage of being familiar with Dooku's fighting style.


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Dooku should be compared with the later Banite Sith, not the earlier ones.

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Dooku should be compared with the later Banite Sith, not the earlier ones.


According to what?

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His 40 second fight with Yoda.

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You're going to need to provide evidence for early Banites being incapable of lasting 40 seconds against Yoda, in that case.


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Do you think TCW Maul could beat Bane?

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The sheer vastness of the Banite gap. Dooku is capable of giving a semi-decent fight to Yoda which I really can't see people astronomically inferior or tremendously inferior to the likes of Tenebrous and Plagueis doing.

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He probably thinks TPM Kenobi is close to Bane


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The sheer vastness of the Banite gap. Dooku is capable of giving a semi-decent fight to Yoda which I really can't see people astronomically inferior or tremendously inferior to the likes of Tenebrous and Plagueis doing.


Yoda held back

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As per the novel and the script, he did not.

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Yoda held back
Prove it.
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He probably thinks TPM Kenobi is close to Bane
Defend yourself, cuck. I'm calling you out on your bullshit.


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