the problem with the vast majority of those that are supporting Zod seems to be that they're getting caught up on Mark's starting strength. Meanwhile, they completely ignore that Conquest lifted that weight in addition to six motherphucking miles of solid rock. They just disregard the fact that Omni-man was clearly Supreme's equal. Just ignore that Mark was implied to be one of the strongest people in existence. What's that, Mark shrugged off multiple hits from Solar Man (another characters that's stated to be the equal of Supreme)? Nobody cares.
They then either don't know or just straight up ignore that Omni-man, Mark, Thaddeus, Battle Beast, and Allen were all roughly as strong as if not a little bit stronger than Conquest. Finally, they completely ignore how Thragg stomped all five of them after nearly killing Omni-boy and tanking the explosion of a planet.
Superman ignores a planet blowing up under him; everyone starts immediately releasing enough jizz to supply multiple sperm clinics. Thragg ignores a planet blowing up under him; "low herald".
I've read all Incredible comics and at no point have I stated, that Invincible hasn't gotten stronger as the time progresses. He even caught up on Thragg and beat him.
Where our arguments separate, is who in our eyes belongs in the herald rank.
I personally consider Hulk to be a mid herald. He has the strength and durability and then some of those two aspects, but he lacks in the versatillity department.
High heralds have destroyed planets before. Some of them with mere punches. Gladiator destroyed a planet that survived the death of its galaxy, so it was resistant and durable for sure, yet it stood no chance against Gladiators wrath.
We saw how three Viltrumites had to approach destroying the planet.
Yeah, Thragg was more powerful than them, but you're implying some massive no limit fallacies here. Where does Thraggs power in your opinion stop?
None of the Viltrumites survived a planetary explosion. That happened in the background, while they were fighting. +400 tones is nothing compared to the upper echelon of heralds in comics. And I consider Zod to be closing in on the Supermans and Thors.
You seem to think that Thragg could compete with Zod, because he was arguably the most powerful Viltrumite - or at least in the top 3. I think that Zod would have bitchslapped everyone Thragg has ever faced, while holding Thragg in a choke hold - with Thraggs eyes popping out.
Terrible way to debate. So everyone that has held their own with Supes is planetary? I doubt that and every writer doesnt view characters at the same strength. What I mean by that is, in one comic Hulk could probably bench press the sun and in another the writer might not even think he could lift earth. I have proof of this actually happening with the same Superman you're talking about. We dont share fts. What fts does ZOD have that proves he is stronger because fighting someone doesnt auto gives him planetary strength. .
My post had nothing to do with Zod beating Phagg because he could lift more. I stated that Zod beats Phagg because Zod has a history against ESTABLISHED characters.
You are quoting my post in reply krisblaze where I stated that even if Phagg could lift 400 million tons it's still nothing to Zod (or any other DC/Marvel herald worth their name). Superman has lifted MUCH more. Hulk has lifted MUCH more. ROOKIE GL's have lifted a phuckton more. Freaking Terrax, who the forum sees as a jobber, has lifted more.
People have their jobbing moments, most writers ignore power levels during those moments, but on panel showings and feats Hal>>>>>>>>>>>Zod, and average kryptonians
You also ignored that the same woman that overpowered Mark was in the group you freaking liar.
Btw, you still haven't addressed how you clearly lied about them being knocked out. Hell, this is the second thread that you've blatantly lied about that in. You're probably going to ignore the clear as day evidence that just one of them was roughly on par with Nolan and then you'll try to deflect to safer waters. I'm honestly wondering what you're going to lie about next.
Damn u guys are really shiettin on Invincible universe.
All that damage portrayal is off-set by the ridic damage soak. Plus it was always more an art style. When a top tier(Omniman) from this comic fought a top tier(Supreme) outside the realm of Invincible, he represented well.
Thragg is a beast. As for Zod, he's been impressive of late. I don't see a stomp either way.