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How much did SOLO de-canon the Cartoons?
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Flyattractor
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How much did SOLO de-canon the Cartoons?

That is one of the things that first popped into my mind right after the big Maul Cameo in the movie.

And I wondered. How much did that make the last couple of cgi toons "Not Canon"?
Or have the rabid fans already started to make excuses for this?


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Uhh... There are no issues. Solo is set before Maul dies in Rebels.

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I don't recall seeing Maul set up a Galactic Spanning Crime Cartel after he got chopped in half and went Crazy with Spider Legs on that Junk Planet and then became a wandering hermit on a old sith temple planet.

And what a shitty why to rip off the old EU's Black Sun and Xizor Character for that crappy movie


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Originally posted by Flyattractor
I don't recall seeing Maul set up a Galactic Spanning Crime Cartel after he got chopped in half and went Crazy with Spider Legs on that Junk Planet and then became a wandering hermit on a old sith temple planet.


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Then you missed some episodes because that's exactly what happened...

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Originally posted by Flyattractor
I don't recall seeing Maul set up a Galactic Spanning Crime Cartel after he got chopped in half and went Crazy with Spider Legs on that Junk Planet and then became a wandering hermit on a old sith temple planet.

And what a shitty why to rip off the old EU's Black Sun and Xizor Character for that crappy movie
Oh the ignorance and the embarrassment because this is exactly what occurred. You don’t even follow Star Wars. quit embarrassing yourself, clown.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Flyattractor
And what a shitty why to rip off the old EU's Black Sun and Xizor Character for that crappy movie


He took over Black Sun in TCW years ago.


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Black Sun still exists in canon and is different from Crimson Dawn. It's owned by maul, not xizor. Crimson Dawn and Dryden Vos was Xizor-ish, but that was only for the film. The future of Crimson Dawn will be a way to further Qi'ra's story. And pretty much the entire underworld is under Maul's control at this point. He owns Crimson Dawn, Black Sun, The Pykes, Mandalore, and Dathomir.


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Not exactly.

In the Ahsoka novel Maul lost Mandalore to the Empire just as Palpatine commenced Order 66, Dathomir is little more than a burned-out husk that is almost entirely devoid of life(you can thank Palpatine for that as well), and Crimson Dawn was only stated to have a "fragile" alliance with the Pykes by the time Solo takes place.

Crimson Dawn might still be some loose amalgamation of Black Sun, though... But it's still a far cry from what Maul's 'Shadow Collective' was at its peak.


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The way they talked about Crimson Dawn originally being a group of outlaws on this one planet and then turning into the organized crime they are during "Solo" made me think they're completely separate from the Black Sun, just that they had some help from Maul.

But yeah, I didn't know Palpatine ruined Maul as bad as he did.


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Yeah, because Black Sun wasn't mentioned directly, their exact status in that era is up in the air. Given the sheer scale of Crimson Dawn, though, I wouldn't be surprised if it was essentially a rebooted Black Sun, courtesy of Maul. But I digress...

Regardless, Black Sun was directly mentioned in the Aftermath trilogy alongside the galaxy's other noteworthy crime syndicates, so it definitely returns back to normal at some point between Solo and RotJ either way. /shrug


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Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh the ignorance and the embarrassment because this is exactly what occurred. You don’t even follow Star Wars. quit embarrassing yourself, clown.


I don't like crappy toons...

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He took over Black Sun in TCW years ago.


which is why I didn't watch TCW.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Flyattractor
I don't recall seeing Maul set up a Galactic Spanning Crime Cartel after he got chopped in half and went Crazy with Spider Legs on that Junk Planet and then became a wandering hermit on a old sith temple planet.

And what a shitty why to rip off the old EU's Black Sun and Xizor Character for that crappy movie
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Originally posted by ares834
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Then you missed some episodes because that's exactly what happened...
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Originally posted by Flyattractor
I don't like crappy toons...



which is why I didn't watch TCW.
So this thread showed they do count but your ignorance has caused everyone to pause and laugh at you, attention whore. You’re such a disappointment.


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Yeah I know. Its Horrible that I didn't INVEST My Time into a sub-par children's cartoon based on subject matter I had almost No Interest in!

I leave that type of thing to Silly Little Fan-atics like Quanchi-chi!!!!!


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Yeah I know. Its Horrible that I didn't INVEST My Time into a sub-par children's cartoon based on subject matter I had almost No Interest in!

I leave that type of thing to Silly Little Fan-atics like Quanchi-chi!!!!!
So you don’t care for Star Wars I so. Don’t create threadsabout stuff you don’t care about it makes you look like an attention whore who wants to be mocked for your own ignorance.


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Yes. You care for Star Wars until it comes time to bad mouth it to show your Obsessive and Fanatical Marvel Fandom.

Good for you Quanchi-chi!


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Originally posted by Flyattractor
Yes. You care for Star Wars until it comes time to bad mouth it to show your Obsessive and Fanatical Marvel Fandom.

Good for you Quanchi-chi!
&ou think this is all kid stuff so just stop. You don’t care at all we get it..then eoriginls were kids films according to George Lucas you twit. I live me some star wars just not as much as the MCU.


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There a levels. Family Stuff and Stupid Kid Stuff. Every thing post Org Tril is pretty much Stupid Kid Stuff. Especially the "Cartoons" . But then the new movies are more CGI TOON then Live Action anymore.


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So you basically admit you came here just to troll?


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Originally posted by Flyattractor
There a levels. Family Stuff and Stupid Kid Stuff. Every thing post Org Tril is pretty much Stupid Kid Stuff. Especially the "Cartoons" . But then the new movies are more CGI TOON then Live Action anymore.
You said kids stuff but Lucas himself admitted it’s for children. So you agree you don’t like it at all so you can quit showing up to cry and *****. Glad we covered this. Bye bye.


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