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Dominis
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Originally posted by Galan007
As mentioned, the question/answer was centered around Palpatine's standing as a "dark side user/dark Lord", so there'd be no logical reason for Fry to be inextricably referencing his political power or whathaveyou(only a select few in the entire galaxy even knew of Palpatine's Sith alter ego, remember.) That said, I took it as Fry essentially saying: "Sidious would have viewed Snoke as a potential rival, then hunted him down and killed him... So it's a good thing Snoke didn't attract his attention."

And with all the emphasis Snoke himself placed on Kylo's power being inferior to Vader's, I fully believe that is also what Fry was referencing when he compared Snoke and Sidious there. /shrug



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Snoke during palpatine,s time would have been killed


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Pretty easy to determine that


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Snoke still wins. Older more powerful confirmed via serkis as well as evidence corroborating that claim by any reasonable person.


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palpatine cqan defeat him with lightsaber combat, that is an easy prediction. saying someone is older doesnt mean that they always win, darth vitiate was thousands of years old and he still cant beat sidious


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Snoke still wins. Older more powerful confirmed via serkis as well as evidence corroborating that claim by any reasonable person.


No one confirmed **** all nor is there any evidence

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there is not much, but enough to assure the winner, for now. yet i doubt there wil be any information that will come up making snoke stronger in the future.


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Snoke isn't a fighter according to the Visual Dictionary. He needs his praetorian guards to fight for him since his injuries are just that bad. I actually think we got a glimpse of how Snoke might "fight" when threatened by an attacking force user. When he zapped Kylo his guards immediately sprung into action with their weapons at the ready. As for Rey, she couldn't really do much to begin with. That's not to say Snoke isn't more powerful than Rey or Kylo. He is, but more than likely cannot use that power well in a proper fight.


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palpatine cqan defeat him with lightsaber combat, that is an easy prediction. saying someone is older doesnt mean that they always win, darth vitiate was thousands of years old and he still cant beat sidious
Snoke can casually dismiss someone with a lightsaber. We see him do so in the film. His power is really great.


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No one confirmed **** all nor is there any evidence
Serkis did. Read my post. Snoke’s feats in the film also make this pretty clear. Snoke is on another level.


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Originally posted by The Merchant
Snoke isn't a fighter according to the Visual Dictionary. He needs his praetorian guards to fight for him since his injuries are just that bad. I actually think we got a glimpse of how Snoke might "fight" when threatened by an attacking force user. When he zapped Kylo his guards immediately sprung into action with their weapons at the ready. As for Rey, she couldn't really do much to begin with. That's not to say Snoke isn't more powerful than Rey or Kylo. He is, but more than likely cannot use that power well in a proper fight.
We see his guards also want to go at Rey just as they went to go at Kyle after he became aggressive because this is their function. Snoke waved them off in both instances as it wasn’t necessary for him to casually dismiss either. We see his power directly in combat prevail against extremely powerful force users.


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Good points quanchi, but sidious would win, he had guards as well.


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Good points quanchi, but sidious would win, he had guards as well.
Nah, Sidious couldn’t even beat Windu who had less power than he did with his force powers or saber. Snoke is simply too powerful for Sidious to deal with.


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Snoke can casually dismiss someone with a lightsaber. We see him do so in the film. His power is really great.



Canon has confirmed Rey is nowhere near as powerful as Kylo as of TLJ.

This was always obvious but I was saying it from day 1 TLJ was released.

This further confirms Snoke was a nobody. All he ever did was own a padawan and use his guards to control Kylo.

Debate is over.

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Sidious, yeah.


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lol @ quan quoting an actor as proof of snoke dominance

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Canon has confirmed Rey is nowhere near as powerful as Kylo as of TLJ.

This was always obvious but I was saying it from day 1 TLJ was released.

This further confirms Snoke was a nobody. All he ever did was own a padawan and use his guards to control Kylo.

Debate is over.
Not as skilled yesbut power wise we see them stalemate for the saber. Her power also rose to meet his.


Luke didn’t see her as a padawan nor did Kylo. Her power was rising in TFA and she stopped Kylo’s Power from interrogation. Snoke did so casually.


Snoke’s knowledge had intel Sidious sought and he was someone who rose to the top. Saying he was a nobody just shows how utterly biased and misinformed you to be. Snoke wins. Too powerful just ask serkis.


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lol @ quan quoting an actor as proof of snoke dominance
Not only that but he plainly confirms the obvious.


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Not only that but he plainly confirms the obvious.


if we were to ask Ian Mcdiarmid who would win, i doubt he would say snoke would win. and if it was obvious, we wouldnt being having this discussion.

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Round 1:sidious wins

Round 2: sidious will run over

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