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XanatosForever
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I'm afraid I don't. I never really had a chance to read the books so my EU knowledge is tangential at best. My cousin was a hardcore fan of the EU, he read every book for a long time, so that's where I got a lot of my information.


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george lucas said he had 8 tenths of palpatine's power and palpatine has blown up planets! i doubt ren can get remotely close to that level.
Nonsense. Lucas is done so his opinion on new shit is irrelevant.


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That was before he gave it to Disney moron, saying the producer of a media is stupid just because you don’t like something is pathetic


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Originally posted by Darth Thor
Snoke and Ren both knew Rens no Vader.

On screen facts > Quans wishes.
He said that to motivate and manipulate Ren into doing what he wanted. Your inability to gather the obvious even when he explains it later is astounding.


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That was before he gave it to Disney moron, saying the producer of a media is stupid just because you don’t like something is pathetic
Disney owns Star Wars. Lucas has no authority over new canon.


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Hey quan, you're still around and kicking? That's kind of nice to see.

Earlier you said that Luke achieved an overwhelming victory. I can't help but disagree. Luke only began to overpower Vader after the threats to Leia's safety drove Luke to tap into the dark side. Before that Vader was keeping Luke at bay and driving him back. I wouldn't exactly call that "owning".
When Luke was enraged due to Vader goading him he quirkily destroyed him. Luke didn’t even want to fight and hid. Once he fought for his sister he humiliated Vader.


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Disney owns Star Wars. Lucas has no authority over new canon.
but only, it is not new canon. Geez, Disney didn’t make Vader or Sidious, Lucas did, now that another company owns them doesn’t mean that they change his power


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When Luke was enraged due to Vader goading him he quirkily destroyed him. Luke didn’t even want to fight and hid. Once he fought for his sister he humiliated Vader.


Huh, quotes aren't working properly. Are you so sure that Vader wasn't also hesitant to fight his own son? Remember, he was trying to convince Luke to join him as rulers of the galaxy.


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Vader was trying to turn Luke to the dark side. Defeating Luke was not his ultimate goal and would not have helped in turning Luke. The battle needed to be prolonged.

That said the Saber fight was clearly competitive, but I doubt Luke would have lasted long if Vader went all out with his Force abilities.
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Exactly. That Luke was able to overpower him in that moment is not a significant point against Vader, in my opinion.


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Exactly. That Luke was able to overpower him in that moment is not a significant point against Vader, in my opinion.
that is a wonderful explanation


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snoke is either mind****ed, cut to ribbons, electrocuted, force crushed or all of the above before he even realises the fight has started.
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snoke is either mind****ed, cut to ribbons, electrocuted, force crushed or all of the above before he even realises the fight has started.

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but only, it is not new canon. Geez, Disney didn’t make Vader or Sidious, Lucas did, now that another company owns them doesn’t mean that they change his power
When did Lucas say canon Sidious blew up a planet with his power. Provide a source or link something to back these silly claims. Let’s go.


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Huh, quotes aren't working properly. Are you so sure that Vader wasn't also hesitant to fight his own son? Remember, he was trying to convince Luke to join him as rulers of the galaxy.
In the same scene he fought and cut off his hand. We see they fought and Luke tried resisting in the final film but when Vader threatened his sister Vader was soundly defeated. If you believe Vader held back prove it but it seems you really like Vader as your defense is baseless.


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Vader was trying to turn Luke to the dark side. Defeating Luke was not his ultimate goal and would not have helped in turning Luke. The battle needed to be prolonged.

That said the Saber fight was clearly competitive, but I doubt Luke would have lasted long if Vader went all out with his Force abilities.
Specualtive nonsense. Vader was injured his shoulder in esb against a much weaker and weaker Luke. It’s clear by the final film Luke was his superior. These are kids films I’m surprised you can’t keep up with the simplistic storytelling.


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Exactly. That Luke was able to overpower him in that moment is not a significant point against Vader, in my opinion.
Based on? The excuses for Vader are nauseating. Fanboyism brings out the irrational.


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Read a respect thread you fool


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Read a respect thread you fool
So no actual answer but a not so clever deflection.


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