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Josh_Alexander
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How much time can Superman remain sprinting? That's an important question.

Cause in no movie has DCEU Superman maintain a constant full-speed for a long time.

Also prep time doesnt translate into him knowing exaclty what to do.


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^^^froth your last paragraph is exactly what am implying.
I Mean this guy KNOWS EVERY ONE OF THEIR POWERS AND HAS PREP . He KNOWS he has to constantly use flashesque speed ( as that OBVIOUSLY is the only chance he has). He will be operating at 100% including his SPEED.
We saw what stormbreaker was able to do to thanos. well clark can just decapitate thanos head. why? he KNOWS thats what he has to do(attacking any other place will be stupid)
In the end all these guys die/or severely damaged except those guys with near unlimited/hax powers.


Yeah he has full knowledge and prep... that doesn't suddenly make him a good tactician.

What are you suggesting, that at the beginning of the battle Superman runs at Thor, grabs Stormbreaker, flies at Thanos then cuts his head off? That's a valid tactic... but what if Thor and Thanos are at the opposite ends of the battle field? If Superman goes for Thor first that might give Thanos enough time to put up his shields. We don't even know if Superman can handle SB.


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With prep and knowledge, Superman can get the gauntlet from Thanos and use it as his own.

Dormammu isn't in this fight.


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How much time can Superman remain sprinting? That's an important question.

Cause in no movie has DCEU Superman maintain a constant full-speed for a long time.

Also prep time doesnt translate into him knowing exaclty what to do.



Well his fight against Flash was long enough to prove he could do some serious damage to Thanos eithout him even realising what is happening. It was also long enough to take the IG off Thanos.

But Flash clearly forced Supes into his very top combat speed.

That said given how Steppenwolf was unable to land a single hit on Supes, clearly he can (and is willing to) operate fast enough to continue to avoid punches/physical strikes.

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With prep and knowledge, Superman can get the gauntlet from Thanos and use it as his own.

Dormammu isn't in this fight.


Well yes, that's the smartest move for Superman to do. Just grab the IG and hope he can use it even if it doesn't fit him.


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Or just getting it off and away Thanos would massively help his chances. He doesnt have to utilise the thing himself to beat Thanos, but would need it to stand a chance against the rest of the MCU, but Really dont see that happening.

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Or just getting it off and away Thanos would massively help his chances. He doesnt have to utilise the thing himself to beat Thanos, but would need it to stand a chance against the rest of the MCU, but Really dont see that happening.


So what's your stance here Darth? Can Superman beat the MCU?


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Thanos solos.


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Well his fight against Flash was long enough to prove he could do some serious damage to Thanos eithout him even realising what is happening. It was also long enough to take the IG off Thanos.

But Flash clearly forced Supes into his very top combat speed.

That said given how Steppenwolf was unable to land a single hit on Supes, clearly he can (and is willing to) operate fast enough to continue to avoid punches/physical strikes.



Iron Spiderman, Iron Man, Drax, Star Lord , and Strange combined FAILED to take the IG out of Thanos hand.

What makes you think Superman will do any better?

Speed doesnt translate into strength fellow.

Lastly, the fight scene with Flash wasnt even a sec long. Moving at such high speeds cosumes massive amounts of energy.

Again, no evidence Superman can sprint for a long while.


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So what's your stance here Darth? Can Superman beat the MCU?




Nah. The whole MCU is way too much.

He can beat Thanos, but thats it.



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1)Iron Spiderman, Iron Man, Drax, Star Lord , and Strange combined FAILED to take the IG out of Thanos hand.

2)What makes you think Superman will do any better?

3)Speed doesnt translate into strength fellow.



1) Except none of those guys are in Supes League (without the Time Stone which wasnt used).

2) Urm, Flash level speed.

3) Urm, except Superman is still multiple times stronger that IM, SM and the Guardians combined.

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Iron Spiderman, Iron Man, Drax, Star Lord , and Strange combined FAILED to take the IG out of Thanos hand.

What makes you think Superman will do any better?

Speed doesnt translate into strength fellow.

Lastly, the fight scene with Flash wasnt even a sec long. Moving at such high speeds cosumes massive amounts of energy.

Again, no evidence Superman can sprint for a long while.


1.) what do you mean by "speed doesent translate into strength"?? supes has the speed and the strength and that strength is likely to double when it uses force on impact.
2.) do you seriously think supes with high speeds will run out of energy laughing out loud eek! What the f**k?
3.) YOU ARE DESERVED OF A BAN FOR THOSE STATEMENTS

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1) Except none of those guys are in Supes League (without the Time Stone which wasnt used).

2) Urm, Flash level speed.

3) Urm, except Superman is still multiple times stronger that IM, SM and the Guardians combined.


1.) Standard Spiderman alone wad able to hold a 1000ton ship from splitting appart. His new suit, the Iron Spider has mechanic legs to increase his strength.

The Mk 6 Iron Man suit was able to cope with Thor. The Mk50 suit is an enhancement over all areas.


I dont think I have to argue how strong is the combined forces of all of them!!

Also forgot to add Nebula.

2.) Speed =/= stamina.

Even CW Flash gets tired after a prolongued run. In fact, we constantly see Barry training to optimize his stats.

CW Flash》》》》》》》》 Superman/DCEU Flash!

3.) Thanos is stronger than Superman.

4.) Forgot Thanos was asleep and not really fighting back.


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1.) what do you mean by "speed doesent translate into strength"?? supes has the speed and the strength and that strength is likely to double when it uses force on impact.
2.) do you seriously think supes with high speeds will run out of energy laughing out loud eek! What the f**k?
3.) YOU ARE DESERVED OF A BAN FOR THOSE STATEMENTS


1. You are refering to power impact not strength fellow

2. Super speeds consumes massive amounts of energy. There is no evidence to suggest that Khal El Stamina is limitless.

3. Naah.


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1.) Standard Spiderman alone wad able to hold a 1000ton ship from splitting appart. His new suit, the Iron Spider has mechanic legs to increase his strength.

The Mk 6 Iron Man suit was able to cope with Thor. The Mk50 suit is an enhancement over all areas.


I dont think I have to argue how strong is the combined forces of all of them!!

Also forgot to add Nebula.

2.) Speed =/= stamina.

Even CW Flash gets tired after a prolongued run. In fact, we constantly see Barry training to optimize his stats.

CW Flash》》》》》》》》 Superman/DCEU Flash!

3.) Thanos is stronger than Superman.

4.) Forgot Thanos was asleep and not really fighting back.



1) Lol Superman casually drags a 1000ton ship.

He is massively stronger than that combined team.

2) This isnt the CW. The fight we saw against Flash and Superman was long enough for Supes to do whatever he needs to.

3) If he is its not by much.

4) But none of their team has Flash level speed.

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1) Lol Superman casually drags a 1000ton ship.

He is massively stronger than that combined team.

2) This isnt the CW. The fight we saw against Flash and Superman was long enough for Supes to do whatever he needs to.

3) If he is its not by much.

4) But none of their team has Flash level speed.


1. Combined heroes 》》Superman dragging a 1K Ton ship.

Superman wont casually remove Thanos gauntlet. On the contrary, he will have to stop running in order to apply force.

2. The scene is 20s long in Superspeed perspective. In real life the scene is seconds long.

That isnt a prolongued fight.

3. The moment he grabs Thanos arm, he will be countering Thanos' own force.

He will stop running.

4.Superman cant run forever.

Superman doesnt have enough to take them all down. And whats worse, one mistake would mean terrible consequenced for him.


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1) Provide feats for us to compare.

2) That 20seconds isnt enough to pull off the gauntlet? SM and IM almost got it off. How will Thanos punch Superman once the gauntlet is off?

3) Nah he took punches at Flash but that didnt snap him out of his super speed. In that split second Thanos will not know what is going on so wont have time to think he has to hold onto the Gauntlet. Even with thinking time, IM and SM almost got it off.

4) He doesnt need to run forever. But we have see. He can easily fly into orbit and back, and race Flash across continents.

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1) Provide feats for us to compare.

2) That 20seconds isnt enough to pull off the gauntlet? SM and IM almost got it off. How will Thanos punch Superman once the gauntlet is off?

3) Nah he took punches at Flash but that didnt snap him out of his super speed. In that split second Thanos will not know what is going on so wont have time to think he has to hold onto the Gauntlet. Even with thinking time, IM and SM almost got it off.

4) He doesnt need to run forever. But we have see. He can easily fly into orbit and back, and race Flash across continents.


1. Spiderman was able ALONE to hold a 1K ton ship from falling appart.

Superman pulled a 1K ton ship.

Add IM, Drax, Nebula Strange and a slept Thanos to the equation.

2. The Titan scene is way more than 20s.

Thanos was asleep.

3. You dont seem to grasp the fact that Superman will have to stop speeding in order to remove the gauntlet.

He will be countering Thanos' strength. He will be holding Thanos' arm.

4. He isnt speed blitzing Thor, Hela, Thanos, Surtur, Hulk, Ultron, Kurse...etc.

He will get tired and get stomped.


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I see a lot of death for the MCU. Thanos dies first of course, unless Supes goes for Thor first.


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Stupid question, but couldn't thanos make an illusanary thanos to buy time like he did with gamora and use that time to turn drax into kryptonite?

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Stupid question, but couldn't thanos make an illusanary thanos to buy time like he did with gamora and use that time to turn drax into kryptonite?


Yes, yes he can. In fact he can probably make illusions for all of them, multiplying their number by dozens to confuse Superman.

I don't know if they have enough knowledge to know what kryptonite is though. If they do then Superman is screwed.


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