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killmonger vs luke cage


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I love how he got upset when people said he was faster than Usain Bolt.


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Re: killmonger vs luke cage

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One could assume KM has the same pressure points knowledge as T'Challa...

But without on-panel feats of performing such, he loses.


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kinda what i was thinking....


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I love how he got upset when people said he was faster than Usain Bolt.
oops, read this thread as bushmaster vs Luke cage.

Killmonger still has vibranium weapons, so he should win.


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Luke on average.

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Luke, easily.


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if km has vibranium weapons he would def be able to cut luke and i wouldn't put km very far below danny in skill. if someone can show he actually has access to vibranium as standard gear, i'd take him. without, he could bat luke around but yeah, luke would take him.


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if km has vibranium weapons he would def be able to cut luke


Based on?

What piercing feats does the Wakandan vibranium have, actually?


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Good question.


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Based on?

What piercing feats does the Wakandan vibranium have, actually?


that is a pretty fair question, actually. i always default to bp's daggers, which have damaged ultron, but that was via phasing and those are special even by vibranium standards. i guess i know cage can be cut by logan's claws, so i assume a vibranium edged weapon could also cut him. adamantium IS stronger, but vibranium isn't far behind, especially if it absorbs a little bit of energy. by most standards it is considered essentially unbreakable still.

there is also this:

https://www.page45.com/store/Black-...oom-War-sc.html

in doomwar, the new doombots were kicking the sh!t out of the ff and wakandans until they broke out the vibranium weaponry and proceeded to wipe out the amped doombots. clearly vibranium weaponry>>regular weapons. but, yeah. i guess we don't know for certain. based on everything i've seen though, i'd say that vibranium knives could cut cage.


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that is a pretty fair question, actually. i always default to bp's daggers, which have damaged ultron, but that was via phasing and those are special even by vibranium standards.


Thought they were made out of pure energy? At least the classic ones which you're referring to.

https://static3.comicvine.com/uploa...39334-30240.jpg

... gloves can generate energy daggers (...)

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i guess i know cage can be cut by logan's claws, so i assume a vibranium edged weapon could also cut him. adamantium IS stronger, but vibranium isn't far behind, especially if it absorbs a little bit of energy. by most standards it is considered essentially unbreakable still.


Depends on who you ask here. Mungi considers vibranium shit w/o its absorption properties, for example.

And vibranium IS far behind; unlike with adamantium, there was never a "secondary vibranium" kind of a retcon or anything.

Teenage Colossus, Protocide, Collective Man, Bone Claw Wolverine... they're not exactly gods of strength like the Hulk, still all managed to damage vibranium.

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there is also this:

https://www.page45.com/store/Black-...oom-War-sc.html

in doomwar, the new doombots were kicking the sh!t out of the ff and wakandans until they broke out the vibranium weaponry and proceeded to wipe out the amped doombots. clearly vibranium weaponry>>regular weapons. but, yeah. i guess we don't know for certain. based on everything i've seen though, i'd say that vibranium knives could cut cage.


That's better thumb up

We could still argue that they cancelled out each other's absorption gimmick, but let's not nitpick it too much.

I was gonna mention Warpath and his knives... but he has a high degree of superhuman strength, KM can't compare.

Again, KM (and his weapons) needs feats... we can't just assume he can incapacitate Cage with a nerve strike or cut his throat using a vibranium blade without having some legit on panel feats first.


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^^^you seem to have covered everything there.
I was going to mention the energy daggers/Warpath and the strength differential, assigning feats sight unseen, as i was reading the post you responded to.


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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Thought they were made out of pure energy? At least the classic ones which you're referring to.

https://static3.comicvine.com/uploa...39334-30240.jpg

... gloves can generate energy daggers (...)



Depends on who you ask here. Mungi considers vibranium shit w/o its absorption properties, for example.

And vibranium IS far behind; unlike with adamantium, there was never a "secondary vibranium" kind of a retcon or anything.

Teenage Colossus, Protocide, Collective Man, Bone Claw Wolverine... they're not exactly gods of strength like the Hulk, still all managed to damage vibranium.



That's better thumb up

We could still argue that they cancelled out each other's absorption gimmick, but let's not nitpick it too much.

I was gonna mention Warpath and his knives... but he has a high degree of superhuman strength, KM can't compare.

Again, KM (and his weapons) needs feats... we can't just assume he can incapacitate Cage with a nerve strike or cut his throat using a vibranium blade without having some legit on panel feats first.
as far as cutting feats go:

He can at least get through the hulk.

https://m.imgur.com/FTMMP6z?r

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And Thanos:
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploa.../5191835-11.jpg


IIRC, Erik used a vibranium suit and weapons in his last fight with BP. You'll have to look it up yourself though.


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Originally posted by deathslash
oops, read this thread as bushmaster vs Luke cage.

Killmonger still has vibranium weapons, so he should win.


I read it as Killpower vs Cage.

Which would be pretty awesome, imo.


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as far as cutting feats go:

He can at least get through the hulk.

https://m.imgur.com/FTMMP6z?r

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And Thanos:
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploa.../5191835-11.jpg


IIRC, Erik used a vibranium suit and weapons in his last fight with BP. You'll have to look it up yourself though.


Yeah, but that's anti-metal. Not Wakandan vibranium.

I don't recall Killmonger using AM.


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Based on?

What piercing feats does the Wakandan vibranium have, actually?


one i'd completely forgotten about but came across recently:

https://imgur.com/a/itoEAmp

and yeah, it was def TRUE adamantium:

https://imgur.com/a/rrhEk7y

so vibranium cutting through adamantium? pretty solid. thumb up


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one i'd completely forgotten about but came across recently:

https://imgur.com/a/itoEAmp

and yeah, it was def TRUE adamantium:

https://imgur.com/a/rrhEk7y

so vibranium cutting through adamantium? pretty solid. thumb up


Antarctic vibranium, leo. Also known as the anti-metal.

Killmonger never wielded it.


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