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Well since socialism always ends in starvation and genocide, yes it does


To be fair to socialism...starving might indeed motivate someone to be innovative.

I'm sure they have come up with all sorts of fascinating ways to cook rabbits.


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To all the silly American's crying about socialism:

We have socialism/practices in the US as well...


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And that is a LARGE Part of the Problems that are taking Place in the U.S.

We need to GET RID OF THIS FASCIST BULL SHIT!


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Republicans kill innovation, because if it's not in the Bible, than they say it's immoral and should be banned. evil face


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Republicans kill innovation, because if it's not in the Bible, than they say it's immoral and should be banned. evil face
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Draconian patent/copyright laws stifle innovation more then anything.

You can have Disney protect it's profit margin, or free up Mickey for new and innovative uses of the ip, but you can't have protectionism and innovation.


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To all the silly American's crying about socialism:

We have socialism/practices in the US as well...

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I wish we could rename socialism and capitalism so everyone would forget all their preconceived biases about these systems. The truth of the matter is that these systems totally work in conjunction with each other, covering the other's blind spots. We need to look at them as a sets of tools, with each one having a specific situation where it works best.

Hearing otherwise reasonable people, both on KMC and in real life, lose their minds reciting this ridiculous idea that "there can only be one!" feels bad man.


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I wish we could rename socialism and capitalism so everyone would forget all their preconceived biases about these systems. The truth of the matter is that these systems totally work in conjunction with each other, covering the other's weak spots. We need to look at them as a sets of tools, with each one having a specific situation where it works best.

Hearing otherwise reasonable people, both on KMC and in real life, lose their minds reciting this ridiculous idea that "there can only be one!" feels bad man.

There is a name for it, it's called a mixed economy.


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There is a name for it, it's called a mixed economy.


Nice. I guess people read my posts even if no one responds to them.

Yes, I just took credit for your education in an extremely arrogant way and I feel kind of bad about doing that. But only a little.

But, yes, I feel like some of the best posts I make here, no one reads or cares about so it makes me butthurt.


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I disagree DDM you make the 2nd best posts on here.


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I disagree DDM you make the 2nd best posts on here.



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In all seriousness, I understand how annoying it is when you spend the time to research and write a post, and no one reads it and/or calls its plagiarism.


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There is a name for it, it's called a mixed economy.


Bingo. I love it when people think they have some sort of "gotcha" by pointing out we have some social programs here. And then act like it's silly to be concerned over people who want shit like not just healthcare, but universal basic income, free college, and guaranteed federal jobs. They also seem to want anyone from Mexico who wants to come here to be able to do so.

People can say not all of those things I just named are necessarily socialist policies, but when you have someone who is saying she is a democratic socialist pushing shit like that...it's silly to call people worried "silly".


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There is a name for it, it's called a mixed economy.

Definitely. People aren't acknowledging it though.
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Bingo. I love it when people think they have some sort of "gotcha" by pointing out we have some social programs here. And then act like it's silly to be concerned over people who want shit like not just healthcare, but universal basic income, free college, and guaranteed federal jobs. They also seem to want anyone from Mexico who wants to come here to be able to do so.

People can say not all of those things I just named are necessarily socialist policies, but when you have someone who is saying she is a democratic socialist pushing shit like that...it's silly to call people worried "silly".

Right, but that isn't what happened here. What happened here is multiple posters making caricatures of and mocking socialism, despite contrary statistics no less.

And in the real world, let's be serious here. Most naysayers are reacting to the term "socialism" alone. They aren't simply voicing concerns over a specific policy. They are legit afraid of the word.

That's why I want to do a full blown, Jean Grey mindwipe. Then, hopefully, we can just discuss this stuff without the baggage, or at least with much less of the baggage.


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Nice. I guess people read my posts even if no one responds to them.

Yes, I just took credit for your education in an extremely arrogant way and I feel kind of bad about doing that. But only a little.

But, yes, I feel like some of the best posts I make here, no one reads or cares about so it makes me butthurt.


I read that same post you made before. I think I read all your posts if I'm active in the thread.


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Right, but that isn't what happened here. What happened here is multiple posters making caricatures of and mocking socialism, despite contrary statistics no less.

And in the real world, let's be serious here. Most naysayers are reacting to the term "socialism" alone. They aren't simply voicing concerns over a specific policy. They are legit afraid of the word.


Bingo


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Most people who react like that to socialism doesn't seem to be the type capable of analyzing policies tbh.


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I wish we could rename socialism and capitalism so everyone would forget all their preconceived biases about these systems. The truth of the matter is that these systems totally work in conjunction with each other, covering the other's blind spots. We need to look at them as a sets of tools, with each one having a specific situation where it works best.

Hearing otherwise reasonable people, both on KMC and in real life, lose their minds reciting this ridiculous idea that "there can only be one!" feels bad man.


Any system that relies on the patronage of an elite class, or on the intelligence of the mob, is doomed to be a bad system.


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Any system that relies on the patronage of an elite class, or on the intelligence of the mob, is doomed to be a bad system.



These types of absolutist statements are almost always wrong.


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