Lol... and it begins. Just want to point out (even though people are going to debate against the showing) that Broly during that scene (possible Galaxy destroying), his power was contained from the device he had on him hindering his power level.
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Last edited by carver9 on Jul 21st, 2018 at 11:09 PM
He fought weaklings, and as I stated before, this depends entirely on power scaling, because comic characters should never be placed in a situation that pits them against Anime/Manga characters due to the large discrepancies that both mediums hold in order to tell their tales.
Power scaling is the most important part in deciding these things. Odin has power yields capable of slagging galaxy wide areas, while Broly struggles to destroy planetary level areas. This is hardly a Sky Father of Odin's standing limit, and yet he feared Mangog's power. It's not as if Mangog is his Kryptonite, or silver bullet like Drax was to Thanos.
Ultimate Mjolnir survived the destruction of another reality, and although the energy to destroy said reality was not quantified, Broly has yet to boast this kind of durability in any of his showings. Not when Mjolnir has survived many attacks like those that the Saiyan's have launched, but going back to durability; Broly would be wiped off of the face of whatever planet he was on if his reality were destroyed.
Mangog as I stated, broke the enchanted weapon with his mouth and survived it's full blast to his intestines. This as I mentioned earlier is far hotter than a star, which appears to be above Broly's physical limits.
You want to discus, or speculate on just how powerful Ultimate Mjolnir was in comparison to Marvel 616's Mjolnir? Well we saw a firsthand account of how War Thor (a bi-product of Ultimate Mjolnir) did against Jane Thor (a bi-product of 616 Mjolnir). War Thor was a High Herald level being that was picked apart by the Sky Father threat of Mangog.
If anything, Broly would have to show his dominance over a similarly powerful High Herald in order for your claims to even begin to be seen as being credible. Gladiator after all can punch a planet apart with his bare hands. If we were to place him up against Mangog... well Marvel has been pretty clear about what weight classes these two belong in, and Mangog is at the very least 2-3 classes above Gladiator.
Classic Mangog would laugh in the heart of a star when we measure just how much his intestines alone withstood. This is a guy that would drink such temperatures like a coffee based on hot much hotter lightning is in comparison to a star's temperature, and yet you still argue as if this were Broly's fight to lose.
Keeping in mind that Mangog is several orders of magnitude above Broly in terms of strength, durability, and power versatility... Broly should last about as long as War Thor, if we were to substitute Broly's speed for War Thor's mystical mallet.
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You have to understand that you're talking to someone who is not just of the impression that Broly would stomp Mangog, but that black hair (base) Goku at the time of this film could lay out Superman, Thor, Flash, and Silver Surfer all at once at the same time, or easily kill them all with a single blast.
As far as Mangog leaping from Earth to Asgard, that's probably just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard, but it sounds hilarious. I'll take your word for it, as I'm frankly not well-versed on the character. But in general, I don't typically support Thor in threads against DBZ simply because, while he has some speed feats, he is also consistently, pretty much universally from what I can gather, portrayed as slower than guys like Wolverine or Spiderman. I figured a villain of his that's a brick would be in a similar place speed-wise.
Can I get a scan of him leaping planets btw? Sounds ridiculous.
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Just like you wouldn't battlezone WWH versus Magneto, but triumphantly declared that you would have won had you done so after the BZ was completed and insulted the better man (Damborgson) who decided to rep Hulk.
Which is kind of the reason why I said that in order to come as close to the correct answer as we could, we would have to severely power scale the crap out of this.
I don't actually have the scans, but you could google Free comic books to read online. Those words exactly, and you can read the entire conflict to see for yourself. Sorry about the scan though.
The fact that neither of them can fly, the strength it would take to cover such distances so instantaneously (The Sun's gravitational pull if you want to consider that) is pretty ridiculous.
I think his take on Thor's speed is a bit more updated. I also like the little touch that she didn't need a microscope. One of the cool touches he picked up from the classics is that Thor not only hears prayers across interstellar distances, he also has massively enhanced senses.
Too bad the book sucks so much lol.
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Last edited by Rage.Of.Olympus on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 02:28 AM
LOL, I love this big dude leaping from planet to planet like a cosmic Super Mario.
According to the artist's impression of the planets/asteroids in the second scan it seems the two he lept from were destroyed near-simultaneously. I don't think I can get a read on how far apart they were or even the size of the bodies though.
Yeah I'm aware of Thor, Thor, and Thor's fight with Gorr that had all showing notable speed during their fight, it's one of the feats I was thinking of when I said he has some speed feats. Another is when fighting Surtur under Simonson I think where he is Speedy Gonzalesing the fire giant while boasting he is as fast as the lightning he wields, which in my mind should put him at a level of speed where he shouldn't be getting blitzed by low metas, at least IMO.
The surgery feat is pretty rad, the casual precision super speed is reminiscent of a Superman or Flash feat.
Yeah, I've heard. Be level with me: is there a single good Thor story since the God Bomb story with Gorr? Because the impression I've gotten from Thor fans of Thor's recent history is not a good one.
Anyways, who do you think wins the thread lad, if you have an opinion?
You wouldn't bz a character yet brag you'd win, Carver? For shame.
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