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which one of these evil characters had the most impact on the SW universe?
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DarthPlaguis12
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Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Both Plagueis and Sidious rejected Bane's Rule of Two.


Doesn’t matter though, this isn’t about the rule of two, secondly Sidious was molded by the principles of the rule of two, finding the best apprentice

Also Sidious did not fully reject the rule of two as maul was never a true apprentice. And plagues never took a second apprentice

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You're confused. Ajunta Pall was one of several dark Jedi that were exiled to Korriban at the end of the Hundred Year Darkness. Even if he were not there, the dark Jedi would have still discovered the Sith species, come to rule them as Lords, and died out due to infighting. Ajunta didn't contribute anything special to the process, he was just the strongest of them, and was thus deemed the leader for a time.

I'd actually say his shadow hands Sorzus Syn and Karness Muur both had much more of a long-term impact than he did.


What?

Ajunta Pall killed their Sith King: Hakagram Graush. It's because of him that those people revered him as the Sith'ari and the other Dark Jedi as "mini-gods". You just said Ajunta was the strongest of the Jedi Exiles. Makes sense.
I don't know why is this so complicated. You don't want to give Ajunta Pall credit for what he did, didn't you?


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Doesn’t matter though, this isn’t about the rule of two, secondly Sidious was molded by the principles of the rule of two, finding the best apprentice

Also Sidious did not fully reject the rule of two as maul was never a true apprentice. And plagues never took a second apprentice


You are right. Maul, Vader, Dooku - were never his apprentices, merely puppets.

Although officially it resembled Darth Bane's Rule of Two in terms of apprentices and the punishment thereof regarding rule violation, the Rule of One was, in reality, completely different, as there was no chance of succession for his apprentices


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Originally posted by NewGuy01
He was one of them, yes. He was far from being the only one though, so like I said, the Sith order would likely still exist even if he wasn't there.


Good point.

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It isn't.


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Revan, because he inspired Bane's rule of two.
Vitiate because he created the Ritual, that Revan based the thought bomb on, which Bane then used to put his plan into action.

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And Vitiate because of Marka Ragnos.


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Originally posted by Haschwalth
Revan, because he inspired Bane's rule of two.
Vitiate because he created the Ritual, that Revan based the thought bomb on, which Bane then used to put his plan into action.


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I don't know why people believe that small deeds are insignificant? Without Ajunta, the Exiles would have died. And there would be no Sith Order.


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Only in Lucas' canon.


which is the only canon that matters

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Frankly can any of the villains in Star Wars be said to have had much of an impact? When the Jedi and Republic are in power they tend to rule for thousands of years- every time a Sith gets control of the galaxy his or her reign lasts for a couple decades max and then their Empire is overthrown.

In the grand scheme of things the only thing the Sith ever seem to consistently do is fail. It kind of makes one wonder what the allure of the religion even is.


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which is the only canon that matters
Disney canon is all that matters. Lucas was bought out like a *****. Bye bye Georgie.


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Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
I don't know why people believe that small deeds are insignificant? Without Ajunta, the Exiles would have died. And there would be no Sith Order.


Why would they have died without Ajunta?

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Why would they have died without Ajunta?


Because Ajunta Pall was the strongest of them. He was the only one able to defeat Hakagram Graush. Remember that these Dark Jedi Exiles started to combine their DNA with theirs via Sith magic to grow stronger in the Dark Side of the Force. And even bred with Sith.


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Originally posted by relentless1
which is the only canon that matters


And - we aren't talking canon, are we?


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Can't you come up with something else?

I swear those on this forum that keep saying that are like parrots.


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Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
He was the only one able to defeat Hakagram Graush.


Source?

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Originally posted by Tzeentch
Frankly can any of the villains in Star Wars be said to have had much of an impact? When the Jedi and Republic are in power they tend to rule for thousands of years- every time a Sith gets control of the galaxy his or her reign lasts for a couple decades max and then their Empire is overthrown.

In the grand scheme of things the only thing the Sith ever seem to consistently do is fail. It kind of makes one wonder what the allure of the religion even is.
Tbh the Sith the rule of the Galaxy with Jedi for thousand of years, from 3681BBY to 1000BBY. And before that too, but they were kind of confined to a smaller region compared to the Republic. It’s just Palpatine’s and later Krayt’s empires that lasted mere decades


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Source?


Lol, for real. All I ever find is the Dark Jedi gain his confidence, and then betray and execute him.


Freedumb making shit up again imo.


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