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Did Sidious teach Vader anything

From reading on legends Vader wasn’t taught much regarding the dark side but it seems in the new canon Sidious taught him the teachings of the sith, rituals, and made him go through trials fighting the remaining Jedi, getting a new saber.

Any thoughts?

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Nah even in Legends Vader got full training.

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Nah even in Legends Vader got full training.


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The ability to deliver Wise Sith Lords their tragedies.


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he never taught vader anything, but i heard that he helped him with focus, discipline, and perfected some skills.


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didnt he have his own version of sith lightning though?


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He taught him to understand power with a lesson in which Vader was ordered to kill a Gammorean

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Faggotry.


You have outed yourself as a biased poster with nothing to contribute to the discussion.

Again.


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The ability to deliver Wise Sith Lords their tragedies.
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he never taught vader anything, but i heard that he helped him with focus, discipline, and perfected some skills.
Palpatine taught Vader the history and ways of the Sith, the uses of the dark side, the power gleaned from hatred and rage, as well as tactics and strategy.

Granted, Palpatine didn't regularly sit down with Vader for Sith tutoring sessions where he wrote on the chalkboard and Vader brought him an apple every morning -- rather he taught through object lessons and experience(this was the reason why Palpatine went on a mission with Vader in Lords of the Sith, and also why he sent Vader on missions with Tarkin and Thrawn in the Tarkin and Thrawn: Alliances novels respectively.)

Vader's daunting tasks of hunting down surviving Jedi, supervising the Inquisitorius, supporting the Imperial military, etc. etc... These were all lessons. This could also be the reason why Leia wasn't surprised to find someone "holding Vader's leash" during ANH -- at the time, he wasn't [yet] well-known for operating independently as a commander in the Imperial military. /shrug

That said, one of Palpatine's primary end-goals was to one day work together with Vader to unlock the ancient secrets of the Sith:
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"The sooner the Death Star is completed, the sooner you and I can devote ourselves to more pressing matters - matters only you and I can investigate and that have little to do with the Empire", said the Emperor.

[...]

Save for Sidious, no sentient being in close to five thousand years had set foot in the [Sith shrine beneath the Imperial Palace]. The room's excavation and restoration had been carried out by machines under the supervision of 11-4D. Even Vader was unaware of the shrine's existence. But it was here that they would one day work together the way Sidious and Plagueis had to coax from the dark side its final secrets.


-Tarkin


So he undoubtedly planned on using Vader to help carry out some of his 'broader' dark side machinations... But unfortunately, they likely never got the opportunity to do so, as Vader had to incessantly deal with the growing Rebel threat.


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Palpatine taught Vader the history and ways of the Sith, the uses of the dark side, the power gleaned from hatred and rage, as well as tactics and strategy.

Granted, Palpatine didn't regularly sit down with Vader for Sith tutoring sessions where he wrote on the chalkboard and Vader brought him an apple every morning -- rather he taught through object lessons and experience(this was the reason why Palpatine went on a mission with Vader in Lords of the Sith, and also why he sent Vader on missions with Tarkin and Thrawn in the Tarkin and Thrawn: Alliances novels respectively.)

Vader's daunting tasks of hunting down surviving Jedi, supervising the Inquisitorius, supporting the Imperial military, etc. etc... These were all lessons. This could also be the reason why Leia wasn't surprised to find someone "holding Vader's leash" during ANH -- at the time, he wasn't [yet] well-known for operating independently as a commander in the Imperial military. /shrug

That said, one of Palpatine's primary end-goals was to one day work together with Vader to unlock the ancient secrets of the Sith:


So he undoubtedly planned on using Vader to help carry out some of his 'broader' dark side machinations... But unfortunately, they likely never got the opportunity to do so, as Vader had to incessantly deal with the growing Rebel threat.

well said, you know quite a bit about the empire era dont you! very good!

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sidious had limited knowledge next to top ancient sith


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