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Pleasantly surprised, when I saw you had posted on this thread this wasn't the direction I was expecting.
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I don’t think anyone is, I think the difference is between people who want it reformed to be more universal and those who want it to be reformed to be more privatized (such as myself)
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The current system is very privatized and very expensive as it is. The latest studies suggest that a universal plan would be more cost-efficient than our current system. With that in mind, why do you think a more privatized system would be better than a universal system?
We have to privatize it more because the free market will settle everything and mega corporations like insurance companies will just do the right thing for the people as they always have historically. Duh.
That's the answer I would expect. I don't think privatizing our healthcare system even further would make it any more cost-efficient. In fact, I could see it getting so much worse after a few major insurance company mergers. Even if they didn't merge, they would all do whatever they could to maximize their profits, which would inevitably result in higher costs and lower quality of care.
Right. Jesus is DEFINITELY not a socialist. He's a Pure Communist.
I've also posted on this topic. That's a Mormon belief, as well. It is better that the gift not be given at all if it was given begrudgingly. If you're forced to do charity at gunpoint or indirect gunpoint (that's how taxes can be viewed), then it is not giving anything. It's being taken. I also have a hard time accepting that forcefully taking taxes from people is okay. But, if the actor wants to participate in society, then they must play by society's rules. Thus, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.
The rest of the western world just shakes their head at the USA and wonders why you don't have universal health care like the rest of us. Why unpaid medical bills can still be a leading cause of bankruptcy. The right wingers and those who curse socialism can rationalize all they want, but the rest of us up North and in Europe sleep better knowing we have it.
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Why spend your money on health care and safety nets for your population when you can spend it on tanks that will sit in a warehouse until they need to be replaced and missiles to more effectively kill Muslim children.
Yet if we seek another model, one that emphasizes universal health care and educational opportunity, one that seeks to curb income inequality, we don’t have to turn to Sweden. Rather, look to the United States military. -snip
The military helped lead the way in racial desegregation, and even today it does more to provide equal opportunity to working-class families — especially to blacks — than just about any social program. It has been an escalator of social mobility in American society because it invests in soldiers and gives them skills and opportunities. -snip
*Cult of Trump begins to look around worried*
A senior general earns about 10 times what a private makes, while, by my calculation, C.E.O.’s at major companies earn about 300 times as much as those cleaning their offices. That’s right: the military ethos can sound pretty lefty. -snip
*Cult of Trump feels permanent lump in throat*
“It’s the purest application of socialism there is,” Wesley Clark, the retired four-star general and former supreme allied commander of NATO forces in Europe, told me. -snip
*Cult of Trump begins to sweat profusely*
Perhaps the most impressive achievement of the American military isn’t its aircraft carriers, stunning as they are. Rather, it’s the military day care system for working parents. -snip
*Cult of Trump is full-on triggered*
One of the things I admire most about the military is the way it invests in educating and training its people. Its universities — the military academies — are excellent, and it has R.O.T.C. programs at other campuses around the country. Many soldiers get medical training, law degrees, or Ph.D.’s while in service, sometimes at the country’s finest universities. -snip
In the USA many times your employers provide health insurance, it's a big headache.
It's funny and true, while many military folks have a low starting wage getting a housing allowance, free healthcare and it has alot of support mechanisms on bases for anything you can think of.
Speaking of a single payer system in the USA part of that cost is already out there with the military health system.
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