I was just asking myself why i did stay away from KMC, now i know it again. This forum can reach Youtube comments lvl quality in some threads, although even there have i rarely seen such shameless lowballing.
On topic: Cheetah would be a problem but is one of the opponents Supes would not just go Yolo it's jobbing time against and Giganta is nigh useless, give Cheetah a better partner and this could get interessting but as of now takes Supes it comfortably.
I'm going to say this again, we dont ignore on panel showings. If Superman beats Diana and someone posts scans showing Superman curbing Diana, I have no choice but to accept it. I'm not going to say it isnt legit because Diana can make a sandwich at Super speed faster than Superman can. ON PANEL, Cheetah have already beaten Superman and easily.
Who would you give the majority too, Superman or HP Doomsday?
Writers ignore power levels when writing fights, because they want to make things look good.
It's why Mjolnir gets destroyed by the Sun. Why Mangog is unstoppable by the entirety of Asgard and all of it's weaponry, but will die in the Sun. Why Batman is relevant in the JL. And why Cheetah is a threat.
It's why despite DC coming out and saying Cheetah is slower than both Flash and Superman, still tags them.
Either this is A: PIS, where Cheetah is written to be a threat like Batman is written to be a threat, or B: it's CIS/CIP, and the heroes were holding back
A is disregarded in a forum fight. B can be argued, if you want to say Superman is genuinely that dumb to make the same mistake twice....I personally don't see it.
To simply cling to the fights as a sole guide to how this forum fight goes, is mistaken. Because we all have seen various characters written up and down to make fights look sexy and good.
To some degree, your statement is right and that is IF we didnt know Cheetah can take on almost Superman level beings. She have the showings helping her case here and Trevor doesnt change that.
It's like dismissing Superman or Darkseid showing against Doomsday because they have better strength fts, durability fts, power fts, etc... than Doomsday. The reason we know Doomsday can break Superman IS based off of his combat showings, not because he can bench a sun, hell, a planet. This little thing you are doing should apply to all characters and if it does apply, beings like LT would get walked through by Galactus. It's good to look at space cheese fts but if we have showings where the two opponents already fought, this can not be ignored.
Thor has damaged Celestials, punched through Galactus head, took on an angry Odin and sid fine. Fought a Celestial again. Punched a hole clean through Chaos King... the list is freaking long. How many Imperiex Probes can Thor beat? Hell, based off these showings, he should be able to curb Imperiex himself, right Dark? This is IF we use nothing but space cheese.
I never said we rely solely on space cheese. I said we take BOTH into account.
The other problem we have is that N52 Cheetah has very few appearances. Yes, she has the JL blitzing feat and maybe one other WW feat. She also has the Steve Trevor feat.
Now, I am NOT saying she's human level, lol. All I am saying is, her average (which is what you usually use) is somewhere in between her showings with Steve, and Superman. Most likely much closer to Supes than Steve, obv. Much much closer. But the Steve showing really drags her down, PRECISELY because she has so few showings.
So we can't just rely on that one showing with Superman. Especially once we consider how writers like to write sexy fights.
One showing wasnt all she had though and again, like you said, we should consider cheese fts which means that Mera reacting to Flash happened because the writer dont think about power levels, right Dark? Or taking on the JLA. With that said, Dark, from the looks of it, seems like you are a picking and choosing expert.
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