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Bashar Teg
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rallyThis was not a right-wing rally that was hijacked by neo-Nazis. This was an alt-right rally (organised by white supremacists Jason Kessler and Richard Spencer no less) protesting the removal of Confederate statue.

There is really no polite way to put this, you are lying. no expression


^^whoomp there it is^^

time for ad hominem deflection, silly whataboutism, and hurt fee-fees.


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His point about the entire side not being nazis, etc. was correct.

It was indeed denounced by the Proud Boys as a nazi gathering. Though some showed up anyways(and got kicked out). I mention this only cuz they denounced the upcoming one and yet were banned from twitter. Probably over Charlottesville.


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^^whoomp there it is^^

time for ad hominem deflection, silly whataboutism, and hurt fee-fees.


Let me be the first:

I'd rank the shitstorm Charlottesville riots just under the 2015 Baltimore riots.

Where are we today? I'm not pleased with the enhanced voices of the galvanized right or left. The US isn't in a bad place but I do place alot of blame on social media and news outlets for marketing to clicks.

I think the best coverage of that event last year came from Vice news and the lady that did that piece was very brave.

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It was indeed denounced by the Proud Boys as a nazi gathering. Though some showed up anyways(and got kicked out). I mention this only cuz they denounced the upcoming one and yet were banned from twitter. Probably over Charlottesville.


Yeah, let's be honest. That event was a HUGE pile of dung. I think the govt should have pulled down the statues put them in a museum and been done with it. That rally to save the statue wreaked of racist intent to overt racism.

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Let me be the first:

I'd rank the shitstorm Charlottesville riots just under the 2015 Baltimore riots.

Where are we today? I'm not pleased with the enhanced voices of the galvanized right or left. The US isn't in a bad place but I do place alot of blame on social media and news outlets for marketing to clicks.

I think the best coverage of that event last year came from Vice news and the lady that did that piece was very brave.


Speaking of Vice, Tim Pool(who used to work there and definitely isn't right wing) said there were even people there who didn't really do much research and showed up just in support of the statue. I dunno, it'd be weird for a left leaning reporter to lie about that.


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His point about the entire side not being nazis, etc. was correct.

It was indeed denounced by the Proud Boys as a nazi gathering. Though some showed up anyways(and got kicked out). I mention this only cuz they denounced the upcoming one and yet were banned from twitter. Probably over Charlottesville.
His point was that it wasn't an alt-right rally, and that Nazis just "showed up". This is false and revisionist, plain and simple. That some non-white supremacist individuals might have attended out of ignorance (and yet stayed, lmfao) is neither here nor there.


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His point was that it wasn't an alt-right rally, and that Nazis just "showed up". This is false and revisionist, plain and simple. That some non-white supremacist individuals might have attended out of ignorance (and yet stayed, lmfao) is neither here nor there.


In the end, the fact is not everyone on one side was a nazi or white supremacist. Leftists need to stop using the "fine people" thing to try to attack Trump. But they won't lol.


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Originally posted by Beniboybling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rallyThis was not a right-wing rally that was hijacked by neo-Nazis. This was an alt-right rally (organised by white supremacists Jason Kessler and Richard Spencer no less) protesting the removal of Confederate statue.

There is really no polite way to put this, you are lying. no expression

Wikipedia... really? Anyone can edit wikipedia, including those who label pretty much everyone they disagree with as "Alt Right Nazis".


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In the end, the fact is not everyone on one side was a nazi or white supremacist. Leftists need to stop using the "fine people" thing to try to attack Trump. But they won't lol.
In the end, one side was predominately if not entirely comprised of nazis and white supremacists who themselves organised the rally, and the notion that "fine people" unassociated with the alt-righties did indeed attend on the far-right side in innocent naivety of what they were participating it is embarrassing tripe, and an unsurprising excuse from Trump's cock-sucking cultists. thumb up


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In the end, one side was predominately if not entirely comprised of nazis and white supremacists who themselves organised the rally, and the notion that "fine people" unassociated with the alt-righties did indeed attend on the far-right side in innocent naivety of what they were participating it is embarrassing tripe, and an unsurprising excuse from Trump's cock-sucking cultists. thumb up


Lol in the end leftists are foaming at the mouth in their search for nazis everywhere. Any excuse to whine about racism, etc.

Like Vox claiming 11 million white americans think like the alt right. At first the number was higher, like 20+ million, but then they had to edit it. You've all lost your minds.


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Wikipedia... really? Anyone can edit wikipedia, including those who label pretty much everyone they disagree with as "Alt Right Nazis".


you're right. he should have sited wiki's sources. allow me:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/...ationalist.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/...list-rally.html

it was organized by a white nationalist. now dance around that and cope


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you're right. he should have sited wiki's sources. allow me:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/...ationalist.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/...list-rally.html

it was organized by a white nationalist. now dance around that and cope


Hmm, well the guy who organized it should apply for a job at the NYT then. They love racists.


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Wikipedia... really? Anyone can edit wikipedia, including those who label pretty much everyone they disagree with as "Alt Riht Nazis".
Yeah, it's almost as if they have the receipts. Here's a poster for the rally with a list of speakers:

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FYI, all the speakers are known white supremacists and alt-righters.

Here is a Tweet from Jason Kessler, the white supremacist who organised the rally:

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Here's another poster from the white supremacist group Identity Evropa promoting the rally.

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And look, here's David f*cking Duke, Grand High Wizard-in-Chief of the KKK, advertising and promoting the white supremacist rally:

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But continue to embarrass yourself further by claiming this was anything but a white-supremacist rally. eek!


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Hmm, well the guy who organized it should apply for a job at the NYT then. They love racists.


clever deflection, pinocchio. how's the job hunt coming along, btw?


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you're right. he should have sited wiki's sources. allow me:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/...ationalist.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/...list-rally.html

it was organized by a white nationalist. now dance around that and cope
Wikipedia has already (as it always does) cited its sources. gooby only needed to click the link provided, but that would involve being proven wrong. sad


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clever deflection, pinocchio. how's the job hunt coming along, btw?


No deflection, just an observation given the NYT is reporting on it. They should love nazis.


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Wikipedia has already (as it always does) cited its sources. gooby only needed to click the link provided, but that would involve being proven wrong. sad


alt-righties and their apologists are too lazy to check the source footnotes so they call it fake news. best to just circumvent that clownshow and post the source, imho.


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Lol in the end leftists are foaming at the mouth in their search for nazis everywhere. Any excuse to whine about racism, etc.

Like Vox claiming 11 million white americans think like the alt right. At first the number was higher, like 20+ million, but then they had to edit it. You've all lost your minds.
deflection and whataboutery, give up sick


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deflection and whataboutery, give up sick


It's too late to whine about whataboutery. Anything else?


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alt-righties and their apologists are too lazy to check the source footnotes so they call it fake news. best to just circumvent that clownshow and post the source, imho.
True, intellectual dishonesty is the name of the game here.


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Originally posted by Bashar Teg
you're right. he should have sited wiki's sources. allow me:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/...ationalist.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/...list-rally.html

it was organized by a white nationalist. now dance around that and cope

The article never said anything anything about the protests initial organizers. It DID say that Kesser was one of several Alt Right organizers, but that doesn't mean that the protest originally started with them. After all, the leaders of the Alt Right that showed up obviously organized their own groups for attendance, which makes them co-organizers. By the same token, there were Antifa organizers to the counter protest who rallied their members and rounded up buses, but that doesn't mean that Antifa were the ones responsible for the counter protest.


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