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The article never said anything anything about the protests initial organizers. It DID say that Kesser was one of several Alt Right organizers, but that doesn't mean that the protest originally started with them. After all, the leaders of the Alt Right that showed up obviously organized their own groups for attendance, which makes them co-organizers. By the same token, there were Antifa organizers to the counter protest who rallied there members and rounded up buses, but that doesn't mean that Antifa were the ones responsible for the counter protest.


more deliberate lies and deflection. i'm just going to ignore your phaggotry now. thumb down


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I predict in fact you won't ignore him and will respond to him again. Or you'll just continue to go back and forth with Benny about him.


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more deliberate lies and deflection. i'm just going to ignore your phaggotry now. thumb down

Hey your free to believe what you want regardless of logic or the absence of supporting evidence, that's on you. Go right ahead and plug your ears while screaming "NO! NO! NO!" if it'll help you sleep tonight...hakuna matata


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Iím sure gooby is just holding out on us, any moment now and he is going to back up his claim his wasnít an alt-right rally, and reveal to us the true non-Nazi organisisers who has their event tragically commandeered.

Any moment now.


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And if it wasnít already abundantly clear, Jason Hessler organised the rally and filed for the permits:

http://www.nbc29.com/story/36024129...the-right-rally

But given that gooby is the same actor who denied the existence of second-hand smoking I expect he will ignore this as well. This really is a stupid as the come. no expression


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And if it wasnít already abundantly clear, Jason Hessler organised the rally and filed for the permits:

http://www.nbc29.com/story/36024129...the-right-rally

But given that gooby is the same actor who denied the existence of second-hand smoking I expect he will ignore this as well. This really is a stupid as the come. no expression

See, now that's better, that's a lot better. Once he filed for the permits it most certainly became an Alt Right rally. It still doesn't mean that the protest originated from the Alt Right(the counter protesters didn't have any permit at all, which demonstrates that plenty of people in that area were unaware of the need for such things), but it does support the technical classification of the event. However, if there were still non Alt Right people who were at the people at the protest it means that Trump is in the clear in regards to noting that there were good people on that side since he'd already clearly denounced the racists within that group.

Also I never denied that second hand smoke was a thing, it was simply the effects of second hand smoke that were in dispute.


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And if it wasnít already abundantly clear, Jason Hessler organised the rally and filed for the permits:

http://www.nbc29.com/story/36024129...the-right-rally

But given that gooby is the same actor who denied the existence of second-hand smoking I expect he will ignore this as well. This really is a stupid as the come. no expression


On May 8, 2018, Kessler filed an application for a permit for the rally with the National Park Service (NPS), under the name White Civil Rights Rally.

The NPS also approved permits for counter-demonstrations filed by New York Black Lives Matter, Inc.; Thomas Oh; Metro DC Democratic Socialists of America or D.C. United Against Hate; the ANSWER Coalition; the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund.[34][35] Up to 1,500 counter-demonstrators are expected to gather at Lafayette Square, McPherson Square, and Freedom Plaza.

I see this ending with rational minds and discourse! Oh look the rally is happening today!

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On May 8, 2018, Kessler filed an application for a permit for the rally with the National Park Service (NPS), under the name White Civil Rights Rally.

The NPS also approved permits for counter-demonstrations filed by New York Black Lives Matter, Inc.; Thomas Oh; Metro DC Democratic Socialists of America or D.C. United Against Hate; the ANSWER Coalition; the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund.[34][35] Up to 1,500 counter-demonstrators are expected to gather at Lafayette Square, McPherson Square, and Freedom Plaza.

I see this ending with rational minds and discourse! Oh look the rally is happening today!
so it is...


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See, now that's better, that's a lot better. Once he filed for the permits it most certainly became an Alt Right rally. It still doesn't mean that the protest originated from the Alt Right(the counter protesters didn't have any permit at all, which demonstrates that plenty of people in that area were unaware of the need for such things), but it does support the technical classification of the event. However, if there were still non Alt Right people who were at the people at the protest it means that Trump is in the clear in regards to noting that there were good people on that side since he'd already clearly denounced the racists within that group.

Also I never denied that second hand smoke was a thing, it was simply the effects of second hand smoke that were in dispute.
Please, spare me.

It was apparent as an alt-right rally from the beginning, just as it was apparent that the vast majority of those involved were of the neo-nazi, white supremacist type. The fact that you only come to admit this now merely reflects on the sheer extent of your unwillingness to accept proof that conflicts with your worldview, and yes, your denial of the hazardous effects of second-hand smoking attests to that.

The extent of your argument so far has consisted of a string of baseless claims unsubstantiated by anything whatsoever, alongside equally flaky attempts to undermine the evidence actually provided, if you bothered to address it at all. Deliberately dishonest actors like yourself are not worth my time, and until you can put forward some actual proof, don't expect any more responses from me.


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On May 8, 2018, Kessler filed an application for a permit for the rally with the National Park Service (NPS), under the name White Civil Rights Rally.

The NPS also approved permits for counter-demonstrations filed by New York Black Lives Matter, Inc.; Thomas Oh; Metro DC Democratic Socialists of America or D.C. United Against Hate; the ANSWER Coalition; the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund.[34][35] Up to 1,500 counter-demonstrators are expected to gather at Lafayette Square, McPherson Square, and Freedom Plaza.

I see this ending with rational minds and discourse! Oh look the rally is happening today!
Can't wait. sad


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Please, spare me.

It was apparent as an alt-right rally from the beginning, just as it was apparent that the vast majority of those involved were of the neo-nazi, white supremacist type. The fact that you only come to admit this now merely reflects on the sheer extent of your unwillingness to accept proof that conflicts with your worldview, and yes, your denial of the hazardous effects of second-hand smoking attests to that.

The extent of your argument so far has consisted of a string of baseless claims unsubstantiated by anything whatsoever, alongside equally flaky attempts to undermine the evidence actually provided, if you bothered to address it at all. Deliberately dishonest actors like yourself are not worth my time, and until you can put forward some actual proof, don't expect any more responses from me.

I disagree, it was in no way apparent from the beginning to be an Alt Right event because a groups presence at an event isn't enough to support that claim. A large group of Nazis showing up to a baseball game doesn't make it a "Nazi Baseball Game" even if the Nazis outnumber the non Nazi fans. It's only a Nazi baseball game if the Nazis were the ones who were responsible for putting the whole thing together. And I give those on the left the same level of consideration. I don't consider protests where Anfia show up to be "Antifa events" unless there's some kind of proof that the protest originated from Antifa and wouldn't exist at all independently of Antifa organizing.

Now as for my initial claims, they came from testimonies on social media and youtube that people had planned to protest and were then surprised when the Nazis and KKK showed up. And as for my "accusations"... well, I haven't made any against anyone.


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so it is...

Of course there will be violence. AntiFa is going to be there.
The Left is a very Violent Group of People.


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The DC white-power rally had very few attendees, lolz. The ones that showed up were wearing masks/hiding their identity.

Anti-racist showed up in force to peacefully protest these clowns.

All-in-all, Cult of Trump flopped this time.


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The ones that showed up were wearing masks/hiding their identity.



Yes just like so many thugs that protest or "anti-protest" and know what they are doing is shit and don't want to let their actions be known publicly. Kinda like another clown group that needs to get squashed publicly too.

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The DC white-power rally had very few attendees, lolz. The ones that showed up were wearing masks/hiding their identity.

Anti-racist showed up in force to peacefully protest these clowns.

All-in-all, Cult of Trump flopped this time.
Yeah, 20-30 alt-righters compared to 1000s of counter protestors. 'spect all the non-racists who turned up at the last protest in error didn't show up this time. sad

Either way, good to see racists second-guessing themselves again. thumb up


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Glad to see a lack of alt-right people this year. Their delusion that they were in any way a powerful political force is laid bare for all to see.


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The DC white-power rally had very few attendees, lolz. The ones that showed up were wearing masks/hiding their identity.

Anti-racist showed up in force to peacefully protest these clowns.

All-in-all, Cult of Trump flopped this time.


So the mask wearers were the Antifa crowd then I take it?

And Robbie sounds sad that there wren't more racist there.

Just the Antifa Nazis. The Real Threat to this world.

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Glad to see a lack of alt-right people this year. Their delusion that they were in any way a powerful political force is laid bare for all to see.



What I love about this is that Antifa just once again exposed their true colors. You think these people, who totally are against fascism, went home once they realized there weren't many nazis to punch?

Ha no. They just turned their ire towards others and attacked reporters and cops. I love it. I don't love people being attacked, but I do love Antifa showing people they don't truly care about nazis, they just wanna act like violent little shits. Nazis are what they target cuz they figure most people won't give a shit.

And hey, how can they be wrong? That one teacher who cracked a guy over the skull with a metal bike lock got...no jail time, just 3 years probation. For cracking a dude over the skull with a metal bike lock. And pretty sure the guy they hit wasn't even a nazi. So why would they ever feel they'd face consequences for attacking people they deem nazis?


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But hey surely CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, NYT, will all denounce this. After all...they've been SUPER concerned about how the media is treated recently.

I expect this will be a major story. In fact, I'm gonna go on CNN right now to see.


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Weird, nothing on the front page of CNN. Oh there is a story about the event, but it's just gushing about how the counter protesters outnumbered the nazis.

Well obviously if I just search the CNN site for "antifa" it will come up and....ah, no...nothing. Well, MSNBC will be different.

Just kidding! It's not.


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