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Can Zod replicate Kurse's Mjolnir feat?
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Can Zod replicate Kurses mjolnir feat?

Same circumstances as Thor Dark world 2

*Zod has to backhand Mjolnir
*Can Zod replicate it based on feats?


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No way.


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A returning Mjolnir??? Perhaps. I think he could should he do it right.


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A returning Mjolnir??? Perhaps. I think he could should he do it right.
Based on?


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Re: Can Zod replicate Kurses mjolnir feat?

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Originally posted by carthage
Same circumstances as Thor Dark world 2

*Zod has to backhand Mjolnir
*Can Zod replicate it based on feats?


Based off feats.
Kurse greatest strength feat is lifting the boulder and throwing it some distance.
We must use that to calculate the upper limit of the return enchantment since we have no other feats by Mjolnir to accurately determine the upper limit force of the return enchantment.

Zod’s greatest feats are throwing Superman through at least 5 skyscrapers, uppercutting him up to the top of a skyscraper while Superman’s momentum is still great enough to bust the top of the skyscraper, and hitting Superman so hard that the shockwaves created a huge crater in a brick skyscraper (shared feat).

I’ll start by calculating the force needed for the uppercut (ignoring the damage to the top and assuming Superman would have stopped at the top) if anyone is interested.


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All we really know is Kurse is way way stronger than Thor or Hulk.

Is Zod way way stronger than Thor or Hulk? Lol, no probably not.


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Based on?


Because a returning Mjolnir has no feats. Also, we saw Kurse struggling to lift up a rock which am pretty sure Zod could lift up with less trouble.

In that aspect Hulk, Thanos and many other beings could deflect a returning mjonlir.


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All we really know is Kurse is way way stronger than Thor or Hulk.

Is Zod way way stronger than Thor or Hulk? Lol, no probably not.


Kurse isn't stronger than Hulk.

And Thor isn't on Hulk's level of strength either.


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All we really know is Kurse is way way stronger than Thor or Hulk.

Is Zod way way stronger than Thor or Hulk? Lol, no probably not.




Exactly. Powerscaling with other characters matters. Not just lifting and throwing feats.

We never even saw Kurse around skyscrapers lol

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Kurse isn't stronger than Hulk.




Did Hulk ever Swat away Mjolnir and beat on Thor the way Kurse did? Nope.

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All we really know is Kurse is way way stronger than Thor or Hulk.

Is Zod way way stronger than Thor or Hulk? Lol, no probably not.


Why is Kurse way way stronger than Thor? Is it because of his boulder feat? If not then what's the basis?

And how do you compare strength of characters from different universes? By feats? Which feats should you compare for Zod and Kurse?


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Exactly. Powerscaling with other characters matters. Not just lifting and throwing feats.

We never even saw Kurse around skyscrapers lol




Did Hulk ever Swat away Mjolnir and beat on Thor the way Kurse did? Nope.

You can't power scale with characters in different universes. Zod hasn't fought any character connected to Thor or Kurse. We must rely on feats of strength.


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Did Hulk ever Swat away Mjolnir and beat on Thor the way Kurse did? Nope.


Did Hulk ever tried deflecting a returning Mjolnir? No.

Fighting skills isnt equal to strength.

My turn, did Mjolnir ever stopped a Leviathan?


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Why is Kurse way way stronger than Thor? Is it because of his boulder feat? If not then what's the basis?

And how do you compare strength of characters from different universes? By feats? Which feats should you compare for Zod and Kurse?



You powerscale with beings from the same Universe and the feats they have. So Thanos is not featless in strength because he never lifted a Skyscraper. He physically overpowered Hulk pretty easily, meaning he could repeat the Leviathan punch much easier than Hulk could.

That is basic forum debating. You cant debate on lifting feats alone without powerscaling, that would be nonsensical.


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Did Hulk ever tried deflecting a returning Mjolnir? No.

Fighting skills isnt equal to strength.

My turn, did Mjolnir ever stopped a Leviathan?



What?

Kurse performed miles better against Thor and Mjolnir than Hulk ever did it ever could. Miles better.

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Because a returning Mjolnir has no feats. Also, we saw Kurse struggling to lift up a rock which am pretty sure Zod could lift up with less trouble.

In that aspect Hulk, Thanos and many other beings could deflect a returning mjonlir.
He did not struggle. He did so casually. To do what he did to Thor required super strength.


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Kurse isn't stronger than Hulk.

And Thor isn't on Hulk's level of strength either.


Hulk tried to lift the hammer and failed.

Kurse swats it away like it's a little b*tch.


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Hulk tried to lift the hammer and failed.

Kurse swats it away like it's a little b*tch.


That's assuming the prevent from lifting up enchantment is the same as prevent from returning enchantment (if that exists).

Do you think Kurse can lift the hammer?


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You powerscale with beings from the same Universe and the feats they have. So Thanos is not featless in strength because he never lifted a Skyscraper. He physically overpowered Hulk pretty easily, meaning he could repeat the Leviathan punch much easier than Hulk could.

That is basic forum debating. You cant debate on lifting feats alone without powerscaling, that would be nonsensical.





What?

Kurse performed miles better against Thor and Mjolnir than Hulk ever did it ever could. Miles better.


And yet that has NOTHING to do with strength.

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Hulk tried to lift the hammer and failed.

Kurse swats it away like it's a little b*tch.


Agree. Doesnt make him stronger than Hulk or other MCU characters.

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Hulk tried to lift the hammer and failed.

Kurse swats it away like it's a little b*tch.


I dont remember Kurse lifting Mjolnir. And am sure you realize that lifting =/= deflecting a flying object.


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That's assuming the prevent from lifting up enchantment is the same as prevent from returning enchantment (if that exists).

Do you think Kurse can lift the hammer?


Here's the key difference:

When Thor threw his hammer at Hulk, the force of the throw was so powerful, that when he grabbed it, Hulk was completely taken off his feet and floored.

When Thor threw his hammer at Kurse, he casually knocked it away.

Based on these interactions, if Hulk had tried to swat away Mjolnir, imho, he would have broken some fingers and got plowed into the ground.

Now we've seen Hulk vs. Thor in an extended fight in Ragnarok, it's pretty clear that Kurse is much stronger, more durable, and skilled than Hulk. He'd beat the utter shit out of him. Ragnarok didn't really change much though. Hulk vs. Thor is competitive even in h2h but Hulk is favored. Once an external factor like Mjolnir comes into play, Thor starts knocking him around. Or in the case of Ragnarok, his lightning powers.

We just have better CGI and an extended fight scene to confirm our initial hypothesis from Avengers 1. I will say that Thor in Ragnarok moved much faster visually and with more obvious skill than in any other appearance. Even when he was beating up the Shield Agents in Thor 1, demonstrating his great h2h skills, it was a lot less polished.

As for this thread: Zod can't replicate the feat. Let's not be dumb.


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