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Honestly don't view it as a mark against Ellimist either, he just makes shitty threads for the sake of making shitty threads.
Shadilay my brothers and sisters. With any luck we will throw off the shackles of normie oppression. We have nothing to lose but our chains! Praise Kek!
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No, not at the state level. That is why many argue a communist state has never been achieved, as there would be no state. Communism isn't like socialism, capitalism, fascism, etc. Those systems still allow for goverment. Under communism, we'd just share everything without a central authority telling us what to do.
There are examples of communism on smaller scales though. Hippie communes, Jewish kibbutzes, Christian communist sects(Hutterites, Mennonites, etc). Some Christian communists are pretty interesting because it definitely flies in the face of mainstream Christianity. Many would argue Christ and the Apostles were straight up communists, or rather, proto-communists since communism wasn't a developed idea back then. For them, the Bible is text about social justice and is fundamentally opposed to most modern economic systems. Capitalism encourages greed, violence, and exploitation instead of compassion, peace, and justice. It is incompatible with the teachings of Christ for them.
It should be noted that religious communists are not usually marxists, even though those terns get put together often. I'm just a heathenous atheist though, so I can't give insight into every aspect of their views. It does fascinate me though.
I'm always watching.
Last edited by StyleTime on Aug 28th, 2018 at 09:00 PM
Another good post, yeah, Marx had the idea that we could basically be what we wanted and get fair remuneration. So for example, if I fished in the morning and got several fish I could trade you a fish for a fair number of vegetables. It the afternoon, I might decide to paint your house and you might decide to knit me a scarf, the number of hours and effort have to be equitable.
Pretty much. (Ignore the typos in my last post pls. lol)
Communism, in my view, isn't something you can force people into if you want it to work. You can't use a hyper strong government to create a no-goverment world. It's assbackwards. You're basically turning into fascists "temporarily" and pretending like you'll be fine giving up your power down the road.....which never happens.
The people have to choose communism.
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Last edited by StyleTime on Aug 28th, 2018 at 09:18 PM
Very true, animal farm is and always will be the best book on the Russian revolution. The "communists" were the best organised so they took over. They were never a majority, even in the communist party...
Also, I've posted about Christ and his clearly communist ideas (pure communism, as you allude to). I even include biblical citations, from Christ's wording, to support my position. lol
It rustles jimmies when you tell many conservative Christians that Christ was definitely a communist. But the KMC search engine isn't working too well for me so I can't find the post. Oh well, no one would read it anyway. WEEEEE!
I'd heard the idea when I was a kid, but I was actually pretty ignorant about the details until college. I had a Christian professor teaching a course on anti-capitalist topics that enlightened me about it. He didn't live on a commune or anything, but the was pretty politically active, protesting and participating in activism here and abroad. Like the communities mentioned earlier, capitalism was just plain incompatible with the Bible to him, and he had the academic texts to support his arguments.
He was the first guy to really explain the idea of Christian Social Utopias to me. Gustavo Gutierrez, Ernst Bloch, Leonardo Boff, the Bible itself, etc. I didn't even know what Liberation Theology was until reading some of these guys.
And it's not even a "new" idea in Christianity. Guys like Meister Eckhart and William Langland were pointing this stuff out as far back as the 1300's. They were at risk of being set on fire and dragged through the streets for heresy though so they had to be careful about the message. I've read St. Thomas Moore's Utopia, and that shit is a communist's wet dream.
And it's not even just Christianity. Abrahamic religions, regardless of how mainstream society ignores it, has these underpinnings. Sayyid Qutb wrote extensively about Islamic arguments for economic equality in Social Justice in Islam. Manya Shochat, Ber Borochov, and Yitzchak Epstein presented these ideas from the Jewish standpoint.
It was super interesting running into all this stuff, as you typically don't really hear this stuff in school. I miss that guy.
I read most replies to me, but I laziness is a hell of drug, so I don't alway get around to replying lmao.
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Last edited by StyleTime on Aug 30th, 2018 at 07:43 PM