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Who would be a bigger threat: Thor vs. Superman
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h1a8
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This is what Darth posted.

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Originally posted by Darth Thor
Didnt you just logically claim a bullet > paintballs? Was that not changing goal posts? No wait, your the science and maths teacher, so Im sure you know best.

This is my response.
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Originally posted by h1a8
I was responding to Silent. Hes trolling about the paintballs.


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Dude, you can write down whatever numbers you want. In the end, nothing you wrote proves that aircraft bullets can penetrate Thor. Especially when we all know that you simply made of the 200 ton force for Hulk and the fact that Hulk's punches never really damaged Thor.

In other words, you have no idea what amount of force is actually needed to pierce Thor's hide or cause him grevious injury. So until you can figure that out, all your numbers mean nothing.

We don't do "no limit fallacies" here.
The most Thor endured without damage is his limit.
Thor has been hurt by less than his highest showings but we will use the highest he endured as his limit.

Whether Hulk hit Thor with more than 200 tons of force or not, it Doesn't matter as you now have to prove that Thor can resist such pressure as I posted.


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Originally posted by h1a8
We don't do "no limit fallacies" here.
The most Thor endured without damage is his limit.
Thor has been hurt by less than his highest showings but we will use the highest he endured as his limit.

Whether Hulk hit Thor with more than 200 tons of force or not, it Doesn't matter as you now have to prove that Thor can resist such pressure as I posted.


Correct, we don't do no limit fallacies. That's why you can't claim that aircraft bullets can simply penetrate someone as durable as Thor without any proof.

Let me spell this out so you can understand. You need to show proof of aircraft bullets penetrating something as durable as Thor, otherwise you're using a no limits fallacy for aircraft bullets.


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Correct, we don't do no limit fallacies. That's why you can't claim that aircraft bullets can simply penetrate someone as durable as Thor without any proof.

Let me spell this out so you can understand. You need to show proof of aircraft bullets penetrating something as durable as Thor, otherwise you're using a no limits fallacy for aircraft bullets.

Are you assuming Thor's durability to prove it? That's called BEGGING THE QUESTION.

Thor's feats are less than aircraft bullet penetrating. That's why aircraft bullets can go through him.


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Are you assuming Thor's durability to prove it? That's called BEGGING THE QUESTION.

Thor's feats are less than aircraft bullet penetrating. That's why aircraft bullets can go through him.


Surviving the Sokovia Blast 》Aircraft bullets.

Even if bullets can pen Thor (Which they might) doesnt mean Thor will fall to them.


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Originally posted by h1a8
Are you assuming Thor's durability to prove it? That's called BEGGING THE QUESTION.

Thor's feats are less than aircraft bullet penetrating. That's why aircraft bullets can go through him.


No, I'm saying I've never seen aircraft bullets penetrate something durable enough to survive a fall from hundreds of feet without any damage, or take the full force of a neutron star for a few minutes without dying, or tank a blast capable of blowing up a bridge.

The moment you show me aircraft bullets piercing something durable enough to replicate those feats is when you actually come up with proof. For now, all you're doing is applying a no limits fallacy to bullets. It's the same as me saying BB pellet guns can injure Thor simply because Thor has no feats of tanking BB pellet guns... despite the fact that Thor has already survived worse attacks.


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No, I'm saying I've never seen aircraft bullets penetrate something durable enough to survive a fall from hundreds of feet without any damage, or take the full force of a neutron star for a few minutes without dying, or tank a blast capable of blowing up a bridge.

The moment you show me aircraft bullets piercing something durable enough to replicate those feats is when you actually come up with proof. For now, all you're doing is applying a no limits fallacy to bullets. It's the same as me saying BB pellet guns can injure Thor simply because Thor has no feats of tanking BB pellet guns... despite the fact that Thor has already survived worse attacks.


Surviving a fall doesn't takes hundreds of tons of force. Humans have survived a few hundred feet falls. Many materials can, from metals to diamonds to elastic objects (like rubber balls, golf balls, etc).

The neutron star feat is a heat feat and has nothing to do with bullets.

The bridge was already broken. And you have no idea what the bridge was made of. It seems like hard glass.
Thor net force on Thor can be calculated by knowing how far up he went.


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Originally posted by h1a8
This is what Darth posted.


This is my response.


You're a liar. this is what Darth posted

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Movie logic? Yeah great point!

Yes the bullets must have missed, and the near misses may have caused holes in his armour. Again great point thumb up

Yes Thors durability being > Iron Mans is a silly point to bring up. I apologise for my childness. But wait? Didnt you just logically claim a bullet > paintballs? Was that not changing goal posts? No wait, your the science and maths teacher, so Im sure you know best.


And here is your response

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Originally posted by h1a8
I was responding to Silent. Hes trolling about the paintballs.


All people have to do is follow the link to see that you're a liar.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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H1 is a genius. Kudos H1!


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Originally posted by h1a8
Humans have survived a few hundred feet falls.



Bwahahahaha. I'd like to see you prove this.


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Originally posted by h1a8
Surviving a fall doesn't takes hundreds of tons of force. Humans have survived a few hundred feet falls. Many materials can, from metals to diamonds to elastic objects (like rubber balls, golf balls, etc).

The neutron star feat is a heat feat and has nothing to do with bullets.

The bridge was already broken. And you have no idea what the bridge was made of. It seems like hard glass.
Thor net force on Thor can be calculated by knowing how far up he went.


Froth specifically stated survived the fall without any damage, so either post proof that humans have fallen several hundred feet without damage or admit to strawmanning Froth.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Bwahahahaha. I'd like to see you prove this.
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com...thout-parachute


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In the Hospital for 16 months, sounds like they suffered a rather large amount of damage.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
You're a liar. this is what Darth posted



And here is your response



All people have to do is follow the link to see that you're a liar.


So you don't see the part of Darths post where he mentions paintballs?
My response was to that statement of his about the paintballs.


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You're a liar. here is even more proof.

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Originally posted by Darth Thor
You know IM also withstood aircraft bullets in the first IM right?


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No he didnt. He had bullets holes in his suit. They went through him like a hot knife through butter.


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If they went all the way through him (like a hot knife through butter as you put it) hed be dead. Duh.

So he took it fine. He didnt even once say ouch.

And yet Thors durability was >>> than an upgraded version of that suit. Heck Thor > an upgraded version that was further amped by 400%.

Try using logic and common sense please over your clear bias against Marvel and butthurt over Thors on screen power levels.



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Movie logic. There were holes in him though. maybe the bullets missed?
Thor's durability being greater is irrelevant (moving the goalposts).
Yet no proof that aircraft bullets will bounce off him.


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Movie logic? Yeah great point!

Yes the bullets must have missed, and the near misses may have caused holes in his armour. Again great point thumb up

Yes Thors durability being > Iron Mans is a silly point to bring up. I apologise for my childness. But wait? Didnt you just logically claim a bullet > paintballs? Was that not changing goal posts? No wait, your the science and maths teacher, so Im sure you know best.



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I was responding to Silent. Hes trolling about the paintballs.


You claimed that the last post Darth quoted was you responding about paintballs which is a flat out lie as everyone can clearly see by checking the links. why do you lie so much?


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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H1 needs to resort to lies and lowballing. Its the only way for him to deal with Thors IW power up.

That said, I dont think he understands how ridiculously impressive a feat it would be taking even just the - HEAT- of a dying star.

Not that it was just the heat. It was outright confirmed as the full force. Im just laughing at how even attempting to lowball it ends in just conceding to how ridiculously durable Movie Thor is.

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Originally posted by Darth Thor
H1 needs to resort to lies and lowballing. Its the only way for him to deal with Thors IW power up.

That said, I dont think he understands how ridiculously impressive a feat it would be taking even just the - HEAT- of a dying star.

Not that it was just the heat. It was outright confirmed as the full force. Im just laughing at how even attempting to lowball it ends in just conceding to how ridiculously durable Movie Thor is.


Confirmed? Really? By who?
How was it confirmed?

It was figurative language. Everyone who saw the movie knew it was just heat Thor resisted, nothing more.

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You're a liar. here is even more proof.















You claimed that the last post Darth quoted was you responding about paintballs which is a flat out lie as everyone can clearly see by checking the links. why do you lie so much?


I responded to multiple people in that post. Anyway anyone can see the exchange. No need to argue with you about something that's clear as day.


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Exactly, everyone can see the exchange and knows that you're a liar.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Exactly, everyone can see the exchange and knows that you're a liar.


Either you are crazy or just super stupid right now. You are making 0 sense right now. I'm totally confused.
Just let others go to the previous page and see who's the liar. No need to lie when everything is out in the open. It's impossible for me to lie if everyone can read the posts. You lost your rabid mind.

EVERYONE PLEASE READ THE EXCHANGE OF BETWEEN ME, SILENT AND DARTH. START WITH THE POST WHERE SILENT TROLLS ABOUT PAINTBALLS >>>BULLETS.


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Everyone can clearly see that you lied when you told Darth that you were responding to me and not him. You're just making yourself look even worse at this point.


By the way, I never said paintballs were greater than bullets so that's another lie you just told.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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