Yeah,I've seen the fight with namor,cap obviously would be useless in this situation, Hammond up until that point was pretty rusty and/or toned down,hewas just as useless against the kree pursuer sent to fight him (Bucky did better than he did),his radioactive blast which je had brrn prepping throughout didnt even take out all the kree fodders,that arc was a low fot hammond,i mean,he dropped hyperion with a single hit for petes sake,but the fight against ikaris,his attacks on ikaris was just a front,he was actually spreading radiation around the area to detonate, basically you could take them both out and leave only namor and the balance of the fight wouldn't change in that scenario
And as for the namor and ikaris fight, neither of them were at full power,ikaris was fighting the desire to kill,namor had been imprisoned throughout after having been reduced to almost a skeleton beforehand by a weapon made for him by the kree
And his eye beams were the only things that bothered namor there, physically,namor was all over him, Everytime ikaris managed to get the upper hand,it was because of his HV, when it came to h2h,
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At the end,ikaris couldn't stand by himself,namor had zero ailments and was just fine. (please log in to view the image)
Ofcourse,I skipped some scans in-between,not trying to mislead anyone
Now this isn't exactly a worthy mention for either men, neither truly went all out, Neither went for the kill, Neither dominated the other,and the extra participants were incapable ( in that instance) of really changing the outcome
Ikaris came off worse than nanor did, whether it was from the strain of fighting or resisting the Monday control or both,still remains,it wasn't a low showing for neither men,but not a very good one either
The fight against hercc isn't all that,he cheapshotted him from behind,her threw him off when he came close,he rammed into her,who responded with three punches,then ikaris did his light move and herc was confused by the name of the forgotten one, Neither went all out, neither truly damaged the other,hardly proof that he would break herc
Damn dude, way to phuck up the thread with those non resized pics.
But anyway, here is the entire fight in context (thanks to OAS):
They dogpiled him and he straight up admitted he wasn't hitting them with his full power. You keep bringing up the fact that it was 'only ' his HV that was affecting Namor, last time I checked I didn't limit this purely H2H. Ikaris is allowed to use any/all of his abilities.
Regarding Hercules, Ikaris' 'cheapshot' wasn't meant to kill or maim. It was meant to jog "Gilgamesh's" memory. Even still Hercules cried out in pain and went down. Hercules is no stranger to cheapshots because he did the same thing to Ikaris a few panels later. Ikaris' casual energy attacks are powerful enough to cause a CL100 character like Hercules extreme pain.
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I think u said something along the lines of Weapon H having Chos dna or something therefore saying he was equal to Cho by default. I'm paraphrasing but thats the gist of it